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Old 06-19-2007, 07:11 AM   #42 (permalink)
Deltona Couple
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
volunteer community service? not against it.
forced community service? Did I commit a crime and that's my punishment?

part of the 'It takes a village' idea, right? And what do you do when the community feels that some particular idea or tradition or pattern of parenting that your family has done for generations isn't 'proper parenting' or bad ethics? Do you submit to their ideas and let them tell you what to teach your children?
No, you are incorrect in my statement there. I am not saying "it takes a village to raise an idiot" I am saying that it takes EVERYONE to be making an honest effort to have a civilized society. If someone falls short of the fundamentals of being a contributing member, then we ALL have failed. What exactly is wrong with trying to have a community where EVERYONE puts forth a little effort? What is wrong with children actually LEARNING a skill (i.e. self worth, and how to help out). We pay the schools to EDUCATE our children. So is not teaching them life lessons and the worth of COMMUNITY EFFORT not an education? Should we just limit all schools to the three "R"s? Well if that is the case, then why the heck do we have a sports program in school? why do we have a drama program?...I KNOW this is an extreme, and it is MEANT as such, so don't go lambasting me and saying I am being rediculous here, but this is my point....
Why not just get rid of EVERYTHING in school that isn't related to Reading, Writing, and Arithmatic? Heck with all that free room we should be able to make every child a rocket scientist!

This is a DIRECT quote from my son and daughter's high school mission statement...for privacy I will NOT post the name of the school.
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The opportunity to participate in an exciting, comprehensive and technologically advanced school program awaits you at xxxxxxxxxx High School. We are proud to offer unique programs such as the Superintendent’s Diploma of Distinction, and the Advancement Via Individual Determination (AVID) program. We have expanded our Dual Enrollment opportunities by becoming one of three area high schools to offer the Early College Program in partnership with DBCC. Our academy offerings have grown and now include the Academy of International Business and World Languages; Agriscience Technology and Communications Academy; Sports Science and Emergency Services Academy; and the Air Force Junior ROTC program. Our varied elective offerings include Visual Fine Arts, Performing Arts, and Career and Technical Education. Our commitment to a strong academic program has resulted in numerous Honors and Advanced Placement course offerings, which boast some of the highest passing rates in the district. We are actively involved in the district’s High School Redesign program. This program will create small learning communities within our ever expanding student population. We are committed to providing an educational setting where all students graduate with the knowledge, skills and values necessary to be successful contributors to our democratic society. Remember – the future begins with you!
Read that last highlited phrase.... THE KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS AND VALUES NECESSARY TO BE SUCCESSFUL CONTRIBUTORS TO OUR DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY.

So my school is wrong? we shouldn't have them teach our children skills and values? Heck I EXPECT my children to be taught that from school, where I at home TALK to my children about what they learned.... OMG I know! A parent actually TALKING to their own child?...how UNUSUAL! And durring those conversations I talk to them about MY beliefs, and help them actually form THEIR OWN opinions....not drill MY personal beliefs into their heads. I actually do the most incredible thing in the world... I ACTUALLY EDUCATE MY CHILD! to grow up and form their OWN opinions and choices!

What is so wrong about telling a child they should have some sense of civic duty to the community that they live in? And that they will need to spend "x" number of hours WORKING in that community to help develope personal fortitude?

I figure if you don't like the way the school is teaching your child, DO something about it. sign up and spend time with the PTA or the SAC. Even better, if it bothers you so much, run for school board...and if that isn't enough, move to a city that teaches the same values that you have. I have been a father and dad for 16 years, and my life of doing what I wanted to do was over the moment that son of mine took his first breath. From then on my decisions were, as should EVERY parents be, based on what is best for that child! PERIOD, end of sentence, end of comment....
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