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Originally Posted by Telluride
Is "civic duty" just a euphemism for "involuntary servitude"? Why does civic duty need to be taught?
If you want to make your daughter help in your community, fine. But it seems intrusive to make that decision for others.
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That'd be fine if we worked in a society where kids are taught that serving the society is a good thing, but they aren't. This is about teaching them. Civic duty needs to be taught in order for there to be a civilization left when the next generation is done with it. Self service does not lead to civil development and action. It's not invasive when a parent sends their child to a piano teacher so they can learn music. It's not invasive when I take 11 fucking years of English.
Everyone seems to be setting a double standard. You have to learn all this stuff, but civic duty should be optional. That makes no sense. I'm with DC on this one, or he is with me. Either way, we're in agreement.
This is about helping the kids turn into better adults, preparing for the real world which means you have to sacrifice a bit for others. This planet fails when we act selfishly.
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
translation for all of this - "we need to implement more socialist minded plans to continue indoctrinating our kids with the idea that there is no such thing as 'individual' or 'self-determination'.
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Ah, the exaggeration. Feeding the homeless takes nothing away from self determination. In fact, it helps to build the ethical character that can help in discovering who you are as an individual. I know you don't want anyone to help anyone else (see how I exaggerated there?), but the kids learn responsibility and the community gets help. It's win win.