willravel, I don't mean to take out my anger on you...it's just that I wish that we could articulate our vision for the future in a way that truly sets it apart from the anti-government "reform" of the libertarians and the deliberate destruction of the reputation and fiscal stability of the government by the republicans.
I posted about the description of the bi-partisan, "money party" politicians by David Sirota, a few months ago. He's back with this description of the "sell out" by congressional "money party" democrats:
http://www.workingassetsblog.com/200..._21_dem_k.html
I see Clinton and Obama in their ranks, so I don't share your optimism. We face a rapidly deteriorating federal fiscal and foreign policy environment, and a deteriorating maket fundamentals and US currency environment, as well, as baby boomers begin to turn 62 in a wave that will last until 2023 and involve 47 million, aging folks with deteriorating personal health and wealth, if my projections for housing, stocks, bonds, and paper currency valuation are correct.
To avoid mass misery, I see an urgent need for the quick results that a demagogue populist patterned along the lines of a Huey Long, or a Bill Hayward like labor organizer (see the "Reds" thread link) could potentially achieve.
I am more radical than possibly anyone here except roachboy, but I am radicalized by the "achievments" of the money party politicians and the neocon corporatists and their business "patrons". What I see coming can be "bloodless" if a ruthless charasmatic populist emerges, and a majority is persuaded to vote it's best interests.
Small compromises like expansion of health coverage, without radical reform that includes huge tax increases on the top 5 percent and the near elimination of special interest politics, may actually hasten and exacerbate the violence that I see coming, almost inevitably.