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Old 06-16-2007, 09:45 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by willravel
I'm looking for a link, but I'm almost certain. It wouldn't make sense to allow the big five to just sit there and rule the UN.
It does not make any sense, but that is how it is.
Will, that is the same page you linked in your original post, which I have spent many posts and many days proving is incorrect. By its very definition, once the terms of a ceasefire are broken you are permitted to start shooting again. That is why it is called a ceasefire instaed of a peace treaty.
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Is Guantanamo empty of enemy combatants?
Gitmo is in a state of transition right now, in which almost all of the detainees need to be re-charged as illegal enemy combatants. Where it goes from there is anyones guess, but it will be according to the rule of law, as recent rulings have shown.
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And how many laymen are familiar with the named above? TFP has people of all education levels and in order to get your message understood, you can't make reference to the obscure without a link, and I doubt most would want to read about the Sioux just for a comparison.
Well, if you are appealing to the ignorance of the readers here then it is even more reason to be very careful about accusations on that level. Who knows what the prols might think, eh?
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Racism, deception and control of the populace, invasion, murder; these are not so obscure as breathing when considering the Nazis.
Racism and murder? What are you refering to exactly?
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The Bush Administration has gathered power in the Executive branch, so that the president, a single person, can have more power.
Presidents have always fought for more power. The line item veto for example. I don't recall any being compared to Hitler for it. Now granted, Bush has done some things that are unprecedented, but so was the 9/11 attack, so I would expect a bit of a shake up. The real blame lies on the other two branches of government for allowing his actions.
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We are responsible for the deaths of 600,000-1,000,000 people in Iraq. This is borderline genocide because it is a mass killing, and it is only one nationality. The only difference is the inability to prove intent (I'm not saying that's a small difference, but it's the only one).
So by enacting UN 687 we are directly responsible for every death that resulted since the invasion? Who is responsible for all of the deaths in Iraq prior to the invasion then? Would that be the UN, or is that also the United States fault for not miracling Hussien out of power before he killed so many Kurds and Shia?
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The US has 737 military bases outside of the US.
This unto itself is not expansionist, we lay no claim to any territory outside our national boundaries. Yes, our military has global reach, and I would put to you that the world has been better off for it over the past 60 years.
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Bush stole 2 elections, which is an affront to democracy here in the US.
Bush did not steal 2 elections. He did not have the means. To suggest that is to suggest that an individual is more powerful than the institutions and laws of our country. The election iof 2000 was decided 7-2 by the Supreme Court. Bush was (unfortunately) just as valid as John Quincy Adams, Rutherford B. Hayes, and Grover Cleveland. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it illegal. The 2004 election was the first election since 1988 that a candidate recieved a majority of the popular vote, and since Kerry did not dispute Ohio, I would say Bush won that one hands down.
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See? Comparisons that do show similarities, but on a different level of severity. The idea, as you surely understand, is to prevent anything even similar to WWII and the holocaust.
The idea is to brow beat the reader with the most severe case possible, so that any rational discourse is buried under the rhetoric and hysteria.
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