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Old 06-16-2007, 09:10 PM   #18 (permalink)
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The Kurds had exactly nothing to do with Desert Storm. Where did you get that? Source? Please?
Oh fuck. Kuwaiti, not Kurdish. Hahahaha....well I've been wrong before, so this is hardly the first time. I apologize completely, and I hope that my shame is enough to prevent me from confusing Kurds and Kuwaitis in the future.
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The GA cannot remove permenant members of the SC.
I'm looking for a link, but I'm almost certain. It wouldn't make sense to allow the big five to just sit there and rule the UN.
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No, it's not. Put some sources behind your assertions. I have shown you again and again in the past few posts where it is specifically in UN resolutions that we are justified legally in our actions. Show me something to the contrary.
Sure.
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It was under Chapter VII that in 1990 the Security Council by Resolution 678 authorized all "necessary means" to eject Iraq from Kuwait and to restore international peace and security in the area. Following the formal cease-fire recorded by Resolution 687 in 1991, there has been no Security Council resolution that has clearly and specifically authorized the use of force to enforce the terms of the cease-fire, including ending Iraq’s missile and chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons programs.
http://www.wslfweb.org/docs/Iraqstatemt.htm
[QUOTE=debaser]Hmmmmm...

I hate to seem glib, but here are a few for starters:[QUOTE]
Is Guantanamo empty of enemy combatants?
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Them why not compare them to Athenian tactics, or Zulu tactics, or Sioux tactics? Nazi is a loaded, yet very powerful word. To use it as you did then explain it away above and below smacks of sophistry, and we can't have that.
And how many laymen are familiar with the named above? TFP has people of all education levels and in order to get your message understood, you can't make reference to the obscure without a link, and I doubt most would want to read about the Sioux just for a comparison.

Still
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But as we have explored reasonable doesn't mean right. I breath air like a Nazi, but to say so is ridiculous. Isn't it?
Racism, deception and control of the populace, invasion, murder; these are not so obscure as breathing when considering the Nazis.
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Ahem:
Compared to, not the same as. Going to the turbo, my turbo runs off the pressure from my exhaust just like the Porsche. Again, not at the same level, but the process is similar and can be compared.
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And I'm saying that comparisons to Nazi Germany are so overused to have made them pointless.
Okay, comparison on a different level time
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The Third Reich was an autocratic,
The Bush Administration has gathered power in the Executive branch, so that the president, a single person, can have more power.
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genocidal,
We are responsible for the deaths of 600,000-1,000,000 people in Iraq. This is borderline genocide because it is a mass killing, and it is only one nationality. The only difference is the inability to prove intent (I'm not saying that's a small difference, but it's the only one).
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expansionist regime
The US has 737 military bases outside of the US.
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that threatened the very existence of democracy on the planet.
Bush stole 2 elections, which is an affront to democracy here in the US.

See? Comparisons that do show similarities, but on a different level of severity. The idea, as you surely understand, is to prevent anything even similar to WWII and the holocaust.
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