shakran

That's crap.

Tom Kaminski was flying in the WCBS helicopter doing traffic reports when he saw a flash and a fireball at the top of WTC. His pilot said he thought he'd seen a plane and asked LaGuardia if they saw it.

Jim Ryan was on the air anchoring Good Day New York for WNYW when it hit. They said it was a plane within minutes.

CNN New York deputy bureau chief Edith Chapin was on the air almost immediately because the building's property manager had seen the plane hit.

WNYW reporter Mike Sheehan was covering the catholic school teacher's strike - he was speaking with cops who were assigned to the protest. He heard the 10-13 (cop in trouble) radio call, and seconds later the dispatcher announced that a plane had hit WTC.

Anchor Mark Hilan was on the air minutes after the hit reporting a plane had hit - one of his colleagues had witnessed the impact.

James Faherty, anchor of WINS's morning news ran a bulletin immediately after the hit when his editor told him a plane had hit the towers. They had a live report from Joan Fleischer, a WINS account executive who lived blocks away from WTC and was already on the roof watching the aftermath. She had seen the plane from her apartment.

Jane Clayson, anchoring CBS New York's morning news was on the air immediately saying there was a plane that hit the tower.

John Del Giorno , helicopter reporter for WABC, was dispatched immediately by his assignment editor, with the information "a plane just flew into the Twin Towers! Just. . . Just flew right into it! Go now!"

Keith Lane, WNYW photojournalist, heard on the scanner as he was racing his live truck to the WTC, confirmation that a plane had hit - -not just a plane, but a commercial airliner.

Tom Brokaw's personal secretary called him before his shower and told him a plane had hit the WTC.

Robyn Walensky, AP radio reporter, gives this account. "I was watching Channel 7, Good Morning America. Charlie Gibson was interviewing Fergie when all of a sudden my TV picture flickered. So I clicked over to Channel 4 and could not believe my eyes. The World Trade Center had a huge hole in it and was on fire. The anchors were saying a plane had hit it."

Don Dahler, correspondent for ABC News New York says "Good Morning America was on our television and it seemed as if within seconds they were reporting that a small plane had hit the building."

Jane Clayson, CBS Anchor, again: "The first witnesses kept saying it was a commercial jet. Bryant (Gumbel) and I kept asking "are you sure?" I was thinking to myself this must have been an accident. "You're certain it wasn't a small plane?" How on a clear day could a plane just fly into the Trade Center? Witness after witness said "I am positive it was a commercial jet."


Source for all these, Covering Catastrophe: Broadcast Journalists Report September 11th.


So don't tell me that the news wasn't reporting a plane crash right away. They were. Those statements up there back me up, and my own eyes back me up. I was watching it live from my newsroom, and we knew it was a plane within minutes.



If you're going to advance wild (not to say dumbassed) conspiracy theories, then perhaps you can explain how whatever evil entity did this managed to brainwash thousands of New Yorkers into thinking they had seen a plane.

And if the US government did cause 9/11, perhaps you can explain why they used missiles or lasers or whatever other crazy theory you come up with this week, instead of flying a real airplane into the buildings. Wouldn't that make more sense? Hell you can fly a jumbojet by remote control - -in fact that's routine for crash testing a plane. They wouldn't even have had to kill anyone on the plane - -not that it would have been hard to find people willing to die to do this.

How do you explain the people who had tickets on those airplanes who haven't been seen since 9/11? Did the government hunt them down and kill them too?

How do you explain the disappearance of the airplanes themselves? It's not exactly easy to hide one of those things, and I think United and American would want their airplanes back unless they knew it had crashed.

How do you explain the huge chunk of jet engine that was found in the street? Oh wait, I know, invisible dwarves carried it out there and planted it, right?

Usually I see fairly eye to eye with you, but you've jumped the shark on this one. There is absolutely NO real evidence that the towers were not taken down by airplanes. There's plenty of bullshit evidence. Plenty of "hey 2 different colors of smoke means there wasn't an airplane" type of nonsensical evidence. Plenty of lies. But NO concrete, real evidence that planes did not hit the towers.

In order for this idiotic theory to hold any water, EVERY SINGLE journalist that reported ANYTHING on the WTC that day would have to have been in on it. I personally know some of those journalists and I guarantee you right now, they weren't in on anything, nor would they ever agree to perpetrate such a journalistic fraud. You'd also have to somehow get every single witness to the event to lie, or to not tell anyone when they see other people lying about the airplane. I'd love for you to tell me how one might accomplish that.