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Originally Posted by ratbastid
So first of all, again, your response to criticism of the administration involves criticism of Democrats. The psychological phenomenon is called deflection.
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I have not criticized Democrats, I was not the one who suggests that two elections were stolen from them while everyone was watching. How can they let elections be stolen from them when they gave the process 100% effort to make sure things were proper. How does that happen? How does that happen twice? Gore lost in key states, and he made a challenge in the wrong state. He lost. Kerry lost also.
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My main thing, though, is this: do you honestly believe that the 2000 and 2004 elections were on the up and up? There's massive evidence of manipulation, vote suppression, electronic vote hacking, etc. Do you just deny all that?
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There is evidence of fraud, manipulation, vote suppression in every national election. The question is not if it happened, but to what degree did it happen outside of historical norms. I think what we found in Florida in paticular was that after an extensive review both Gore and Bush gained some votes and lost others. I have not visited this issue in a long time, but I thought based on the review, the net results did not change as a result of the many official and unofficial reviews.
By the way, I do think Gore making his biggest challenge in Florida was foolish. I also thought it telling that he lost his home state.
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Originally Posted by tecoyah
Actually, I think he truly does, if only because the vast majority of Data was never followed up on. Case in point:
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Why didn't Democrats follow up on this and the vast majority of data supporting that Bush stole two elections?
I think Gore and Kerry lost, but if the elections were stolen I am at a loss on why they did not put up a bigger fight. Can you explain it?