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dc_dux · 06-13-2007, 07:43 PM

Will....Israel, as a state, is surrounded by other states whose goals are to drive Israel into the sea. Those nations attempted to do so on numerous occasions through conventional warfare and the Israelis defeated them each time.

As a result, those countries turned to unconventional tactics of strapping bombs to the bodies of teenagers and sending then into highly populated civilian areas in every major city in Israel...then using women and childern as human shileds when Israel responded in defense. I consider those tactics uncivilized.

I dont condone Israel's excesses in their own defense. Their political and military leaders should be held accountable...and in the only democracy in the Middle East, there is some level (not enough) of accountability....more than you find among the Palestinian Authority or any other Arab state in the region. Your suggested that the Israelis are capable of being as fanatical is without foundation, IMO.

As to the Palestinian internal conflict, when Fatah and Hamas are willing to focus on economic development and the rule of law rather than an ideological war against Israel, their people will benefit. $billions of US and international economic development aid has been provided to the Palestinian people and most ended up in Arafat's private Swiss bank account or Hamas terrorists training camps.

I do assisgn blame to the US as well....the Bush administration's commitment to the Israe-Palestinian conflict has been abysmal....the first administration since the 1970s NOT to have a special envoy to attempt to work with both sides to resolve conflict......Carter brokered the Camp David accords which established peace between Israel and Egypt as well as the rights of Palestinians to a homeland...and Clinton nearly finished the deal, with signficant territorial concessions by Israel...only to be sabotaged by Arafat at the last minute.

06-13-2007, 07:43 PM	#23 (permalink)
dc_dux Location: Washington DC	Will....Israel, as a state, is surrounded by other states whose goals are to drive Israel into the sea. Those nations attempted to do so on numerous occasions through conventional warfare and the Israelis defeated them each time. As a result, those countries turned to unconventional tactics of strapping bombs to the bodies of teenagers and sending then into highly populated civilian areas in every major city in Israel...then using women and childern as human shileds when Israel responded in defense. I consider those tactics uncivilized. I dont condone Israel's excesses in their own defense. Their political and military leaders should be held accountable...and in the only democracy in the Middle East, there is some level (not enough) of accountability....more than you find among the Palestinian Authority or any other Arab state in the region. Your suggested that the Israelis are capable of being as fanatical is without foundation, IMO. As to the Palestinian internal conflict, when Fatah and Hamas are willing to focus on economic development and the rule of law rather than an ideological war against Israel, their people will benefit. $billions of US and international economic development aid has been provided to the Palestinian people and most ended up in Arafat's private Swiss bank account or Hamas terrorists training camps. I do assisgn blame to the US as well....the Bush administration's commitment to the Israe-Palestinian conflict has been abysmal....the first administration since the 1970s NOT to have a special envoy to attempt to work with both sides to resolve conflict......Carter brokered the Camp David accords which established peace between Israel and Egypt as well as the rights of Palestinians to a homeland...and Clinton nearly finished the deal, with signficant territorial concessions by Israel...only to be sabotaged by Arafat at the last minute. __________________ "The perfect is the enemy of the good." ~ Voltaire Last edited by dc_dux; 06-13-2007 at 07:48 PM..