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Originally Posted by aceventura3
I ask the question a third time. Are the standards you use to judge Bush the same standards that you use to judge other Presidents? Of the Presidents I have studied in detail (I don't claim to be an expert) there was more than just their "big" issue, most of the issues of the day people have forgotten. Johnson's administration was more than Vietnam, Nixon's was more than Watergate.
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That's true, but even when you stack the whole of Nixon's presidential mistakes up....it's really nothing compared to what's going on now. No ifs, ands or buts. I'll make it easy for you with a list highlighting a few of the problems I have with Bush:
1) 2 stolen elections
2) 600,000 Iraqi deaths
3) Starting of and continued involvement in a civil war
4) Misrepresenting facts, and breaking the UN Charter to invade a country that represented no threat
5) no more habius corpus
6) warrant-less wiretaps
7) Appointing incompetent friends to important posts
8) Lying about preparedness for Katrina
9) 8.2 trillion (by my last count) in debt
10) Medicare fuckup
11) Afghanistan gets carpet-bombed, now it's run by warlords who love poppies
12) Lying about Iran having or developing nuclear weapons
13) Ignoring NK, and actual threat, and allowing them to develop nuclear weapons while attacking a country that was no threat to us or our allies
14) Overusing the military
15) The environment isn't even on the radar of the administration, despite our massive polluting and almost every other country in the world at least signing on to Kyoto
16) We are near a $1 trillion trade deficit, and most of our money is headed to China
17) And, saving the best for last, we are openly torturing people in blatant violation of the Geneva Conventions.
Quite a list. Find a president that even comes close to that, I dare you.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Talking scale, where would you put the use of nuclear bombs? Not once, but twice, used against babies, women, the elderly, the disabled?
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And here is where my disdain for the president moves on to his possible successors. All but Ron Paul (aka the last Republican on the planet) are considering nuking Iran.
No, Bush has not used nuclear weapons (yet), but he's used white phosphorus and other devastating weapons. BTW, do you think the 100-200,000 people who died because of the nukes compares to the 600,000+ who have died in Iraq? They were obviously BOTH wrong, but looking at this as a moral equation, it's clear who's more in the wrong.