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Originally Posted by Telluride
We may have to agree to disagree. I think that exercising strict control over our borders serves a very valid purpose. (By "strict control" I don't necessarily mean that nobody should ever be let in the country, but rather that nobody should be let in without permission from the government.)
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I see a difference between monitoring borders and kicking out or mistreating undocumented workers. I don't think people understand just how mush of the US economy is dependent on their high work to low cost worth. If we were suddenly to lose all of the workers in the US that are undocumented, I strongly suspect that we could be looking at an economic crisis the likes of which we've not seen in over a half a century. Not only that, but it seems ungrateful, in my view, that we should want to kick people out who are doing more work for less wages and who are so far from home to send money home to their families (which is often the case). I respect many of them a great deal.
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Originally Posted by Telluride
Absolutely. I can understand why many people from other countries may want to move here, but I don't think that gives them a right to ignore any law that hinders their attempt to relocate. It's sort of like the breaking and entering example I brought up before. I can understand why a homeless person would want to get out of the cold and rain on a winter day, but that doesn't give him or her the right to break into someone's home in search of shelter.
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The aren't just breaking and entering, though. In order to make the comparison apt, they would pay rent and work. It's more like having someone live in your rented home without the owner's permission....though even that comparison isn't perfect. They aren't sitting and mooching. They're working, and contributing to the GNP. They are an active part of our workforce, and a gift from god to industries like agriculture, landscaping, cleaning, and babysitting.
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Originally Posted by Telluride
I'd even consider some sort of temporary worker program if it was determined that it was truly necessary. But no person who is here illegally now or who had been caught here illegally in the past should be eligible, in my opinion.
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What, in your mind, would be a reasonable determination as to the necessity that would merit a temporary worker program?
Also, keep in mind that the people who are here now are more likely to have a trade skill and speak English.
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Originally Posted by Telluride
I'm not too big a fan of corporations being involved in the affairs of the state. I don't like the idea of the state meddling in the affairs of corporations, either.
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It's a tough area because neither is really all that trustworthy....the idea would be to isolate their interests so as to avoid conglomeration and mutual greed. But that's for another thread.