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Originally Posted by aceventura3
No it is not. I don't understand how you can give final judgement on a person's on activities without knowing their results.
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You cannot undo the deaths of American soldiers, Iraqi civilians and Iraqi 'combatants'. I dare you to excuse those deaths.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
i agree. The [opposite] is true as well.
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It's not a good argument. You should be able to explain why what you're doing is the right thing to do, not just say 'it's for *insert sympathetic group here*'. It's for the troops. It's for freedom. It's for the Iraqis. It's for our country. These are all meaningless without explaining why....and when you get down to it, almost nothing Bush has done is really in the best interest of the or any group he has named.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
I only asked if the rules used with Bush are the same used for other leaders, are they?
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I haven't had the honor to shake the hand of President Clinton. I'll never get to shake the hand of Ike or Kennedy. Our presidents absolutely must be held to a higher standard than other world leaders because we are a great nation with great potential for global good. Bush is not only at a higher standard, he is less than most other world leaders. He's less than Angela Merkel. He's less than Jacques Chirac. He trails behind others and is only paid attention because he's the head of a superpower, much the same as his attention when he was governor of Texas. He has not brought intellect, honor, or dignity to his office, but has in fact brought dishonor, foolishness, stubbornness, and ridicule.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Please be clear. Is being aggressive wrong? Is a preemptive strike wrong? Or, do you look at the circumstances before making that [judgment]?
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Name an aggressor in history you believe to have been righteous. The attack on Iraq was especially bad because they had no way of being a threat to us or our allies. It was essentially an attack on an unarmed country.
[QUOTE=aceventura3]People can also fix mistakes without making a public statement about the mistake. Bush has done he's slowed his ignorant destruction in some areas, but I'd hardly call that a fix.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
bush has made changes to his Iraq strategy. What has not changed is his underlying goal. Again be clear, he has not [changed] his underlying goal because he believes it to be correct. Reasonable people can disagree on the goal.
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Bush has not made changes to his 'Iraq strategy'. It was invasion and occupation, and we're still there. We've sent more troops, but that's not a change in strategy at all.
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
O.k., I get it. Bush is a war criminal. Why not hang him[?]
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I do not believe in state execution. Frankly, I don't believe in any form of taking life other than your own.
Bush (and Cheney, etc.) belongs behind bars after receiving a trial where all of the evidence is gathered (without bullshit interference from his administration) and he is found guilty by a group of his peers. That would be justice for all of the horrible wrongs he has committed.