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Originally Posted by Psycho Dad
This ending wasn't a marvel of creativity. It would have been well suited for a season finale, but not a series finale.
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I completely disagree.
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Originally Posted by Stompy
No matter how you look at it, it was a shitty ending. Anyone can come up with a "figure it out yourself" ending. It's by no means creative or good in any way, shape, or form.
I don't wanna speculate to the characters' fate. I want to *see* it, or it doesn't happen. This isn't Six Feet Under, this is The Sopranos.
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I disagree with this as well.
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Originally Posted by World's king
It was beautiful.
Although I have to admit that I yelled at the TV until I realized what had happened.
So far I'm the only one that I've run into that think it was the best way for the show to end. Mainly because I know that no matter what had happened that fan would bitch. This way... David Chase gets to sit at home on his pile of money laughing at everyone. And no matter what, it will be remembered as the greatest drama in television history.
Thank you David Chase.
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World's King, you got it right.
It took me an hour or so to come around.
I was worried before the show about what they would do to try to tie things up. I was not worried about them killing off this guy or that guy. I was worried that they would ruin the whole series by having too much happen in one episode.
How stupid/cliché/standard/regular/normal/expected/exactly the same as any other TV series it would have been had they neatly tied up everything.
It would have been so contrary to anything this series was.
Imagine the following final episode instead with everything tied up nicely.
- Tony makes a deal with the rest of the families like it happened on the show.
- Phil Leotardo gets killed in the same manner.
- Someone forgets to call off the hit on Tony or can't get through to the guy who has been staking him out and tony gets killed in front of Carmel and Anthony Jr. (or just before he is about to be killed the cops show up and arrest him)
Then then before showing the credits they roll the pics of each of the characters with "what happened" text next to it.
- Silvio remains in Coma
- Paulie Walnuts dies young of a heart attack after taking on that cursed job Tony wanted him to take.
- In her grief Carmela travels to Italy for some time away. While there she bumps into Furio. They end up together.
- Meadow becomes a big human rights lawyer in NY.
- Anthony Jr. seeing his father killed in front of him vows revenge and joins the family business moving up quickly eventually becoming boss.
Nice and clean.
And dumb.
Life goes on. This episode is telling us that the characters lives go on (whether or not they are insinuating that someone key is killed).
It was not lazy. It can't say because I know nothing about the process they went through but it must have been extremely hard for them to buck the trend of final episodes. I am sure this was discussed at great length and probably opposed by many involved.
Why should they give you catharsis?
They never wrote and produced what you wanted.
They wrote and produced what they though was good and because it was you liked it.
They created something completely new, they did things differently. Before the Sopranos there was no series like this.
This was a perfect ending.
As for the last couple of seasons or last few episodes:
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Originally Posted by Stompy
It was a lazy cop out, just like the past two seasons. The show has been insanely boring and uneventful compared to the other seasons.
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The Sopranos got better and better as it went on.
- Christopher going the way he did.
- Tony finding Anthony Jr. and pulling him out of the pool.
Those two moments were probably the most powerful moments that ever were on the show.
The writers are brilliant. Taking a guy like Tony. Showing us all sides of him. Making us hate him and love him.
Taking us from the moment that he killed Christopher (eyes bulging in suffocation and surprise) and a little bit later in the episode where they show him relieved that Chris is dead (a moment where you can't stand this guy) to the moment where he pulls Anthony Jr. out of the pool and cradles him at the side of the pool stroking his hair and comforting him (I cried - call me a wuss).
The emotion I felt in both of those sequences was crazy.
And kept thinking "but this is only a show".
What other show writers can do this?
This is what they did in the final episode, they wrote what was right, not what the general public necessarily wanted to see.