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Originally Posted by willravel
I've just reread those resolutions in case I missed something the first few times.
That resolution was put into effect, the Gulf War happened, and then it was over. We are not working with Kuwait currently, so 678 doesn't apply.
687 is about Kuwaiti soverignty, and that has nothing to do with what's going on now. 1441 gave Iraq "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations", and the only way to determine whether that opportunity was wasted was by a determination by the UN...which never happened. The UN never had the opportunity to clearly rule that Iraq had no complied with the UN's requirements.
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687 is the cease-fire agreement that prevented the UN coalition from removing Hussein in 1991. It is absolutely vital to what is going on now, because Iraqs failure to abide by the terms of the ceasefire justifies military action against them.
Here is the full text:
http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/sres/sres0687.htm
1441 was merely a PR stunt, Bush had made up his mind at that point. That being said, the Iraqis still didn't live up to their end of 687.
This conflict is very much just a continuation of the Gulf (1991)War.
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This page should show conclusively that the US broke our treaty in the UN Charter when we invaded Iraq. I've read this page a dozen times or more and I can't find any fault with the conclusions. These are some of the foremost lawyers in the US, who are experts.
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From your article:
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Under the UN Charter, there are only two circumstances in which the use of force is permissible: in collective or individual self-defense against an actual or imminent armed attack; and when the Security Council has directed or authorized use of force to maintain or restore international peace and security. Neither of those circumstances now exist. Absent one of them, U.S. use of force against Iraq is unlawful.
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Both of these circumstances exist. There was never a formal cessation of hostilities with Iraq, and since they failed to comply with the terms of the ceasefire agreement (passed by the UNSC) then the action taken was authorized by the UN.
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I dare you to explain why Bush was allowed to bypass FISA, suspend habeas corpus, and cheat in two presidential elections.
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Spineless legislative and judicial branches.
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BTW, Godwin doesn't mean I'm wrong, it just means the situation is so bad it can be compared to the Nazis.
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The jews, gypsies, homosexuals, and artists might disagree with you on that one.
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I'm not asking anyone to make foreign policy. I'm saying that following an illegal order is wrong.
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I agree with you 100%, except that there haven't been any illegal orders given in regards to the initiation of hostilities.