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Originally Posted by Telluride
Uh, I didn't say anything about kicking out all the Mexicans, or about Mexicans at all. Not all illegal immigrants are Mexican and not all Mexicans are illegal immigrants.
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I usually use them, as they are a good example.
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Originally Posted by Telluride
I said I'm not convinced that millions of people undermining America's sovereignty by ignoring our borders constitutes "positive change".
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They aren't just undermining our sovereignty. They're contributing to the GNP. They're doing work that most Americans wouldn't do. I'd hardly call that negative.
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Originally Posted by Telluride
To borrow a quote from you, "I'm not saying they're all consciously doing this, but that's the effect."
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Oh man, do I really sound like that?
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Originally Posted by Telluride
I believe that America needs to maintain its sovereignty. If that results in a civil war in Mexico that spills into parts of America, our government will just have to deal with it. Sometimes sovereignty comes at a price.
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Sovereignty has changed over the past 100 years, or even in the last 15. Being isolationist isn't an option, as our economy is intertwined with many other economies around the world, including Mexico (can you imagine if Mexico kicked out all the Ford manufacturing plants, in the name of sovereignty? I doubt many people would but a baseline Excursion for $45,000 and $100,000 for a Mustang).
We're better off working with them.