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Originally Posted by Superbelt
Ooh they sent a message to the CIA alright. But the message is "We only pay lip service to actual national security, and we'll play scorched earth politics with our agency personell if it helps our partisan causes.
Plame worked on WMD issues under her front company. That work and the likely millions that went into it are now ruined and lost forever. All because the Admin wanted to 'send a message'?
Is this something you really want to defend?
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Can you see the other side of the issue? Certainly, using Plame to send a message is problematic, however, at some point people in the CIA have to show loyalty to the administration, discretion and good judgement.
The CIA has used the media and disinformation in other countries to discredit world leaders and and governments. They are trained on how to do this and do it well. Plame (pure speculation on my part) knew exactly what her husband was doing and knew the impact it would have on public support of the war in Iraq. Basically the information obtained and reported on by Plame's husband was not material to our case for war. The article, however, was used to discredit the case for war. As an agent of the CIA she should not have let her husband publish the information in a manner that could be linked to her. She failed the loyalty test, she failed in using discretion, and she failed in using good judgement.
Can you imagine if every CIA agent with a political agenda, used the power of thier position, unchecked, to do whatever they want? Like it or not, the CIA is accountable to the office of the President. Our Constitution does allow for checks and balances and member of the CIA do have recourse, I just suggest they do it in a proper manner.
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Also, the Administration HAS been found guilty of outing Plame. Two counts of perjury, one of obstruction of justice, and one of making false statements to federal investigators.
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If you are talking about Libby, I think that connection is reaching.
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Originally Posted by willravel
I don't have a guy like that. I guess I'm not powerful enough yet.  |
I let my wife handle that stuff for me. I often feel guilty after she is done what she does to people. There have been a few times where I went back and apologized and reminded them not to piss her off again.
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She was looking for the truth; doing her job.
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I don't think trying to discredit the case for war was her job or her husband's. If that is what she wanted to do she should have submitted her resignation, and then took on her political cause.
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She was being a responsible CIA operative (something I didn't knew existed anymore). They just happened to have found out that the Africa source for uranium story was bogus, and the president lied. It's because of that her cover was blown.
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the President did not lie. He did not make the stry up. I think that is the problem. People associated with the CIA should not be cloesly connected to people calling the President a lier. Her husband could have relased the information to a reporter anonymously, the same way others do.