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Old 05-29-2007, 06:07 AM   #7 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by tecoyah
WWII-multiple invasions by an aggressor nation, massive military buildup and expressed intent by Hitler to take UK territory.

Iraq-no invasions (kuwait was long over), no real military, and no expressed (or hidden, let alone capability) intent for invasion.

WWII-Highly organized and capable regime, capable of directly affecting Winston Churchils population.

Iraq-weak and unorganized regime incapable of mounting a serious threat to its direct neighbors, let alone the population Bush was responsible for.


Please Ace...do not make this comparison. No one here wants to think of you as someone who seriously considers this in any way similar.
I wrote that I was not comparing WWII to the Iraq war. The point was in support of the point I made about how national and world leaders communicate. Some believe Bush lied, I don't. If you look at Bush's speeches and consider his tone, hyperbole, certainty, etc. misleading or lies, you would have difficulty in making a case that Bush is alone in history relative to that point.

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Originally Posted by ubertuber
The existence of these people is almost entirely mythical. There may be one or two sociopaths out there, but that's not who we're fighting.

Please tell me that you don't also believe that they "hate us because we're free".
I say what I believe. I try to do so simply and clearly. You don't have to read between the lines with me.

Using fear as a weapon or tool to control people is not new, and has been used in countless instances throughout history. If you don't think that is true, can suggest some things to read. If you agree, but don't think there are groups like Al Queda using fear (terrorist tactics) as a weapon, we can never agree on our national motivation to address the issue.
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