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Originally Posted by Carno
You think the only way people can get "up" is if someone does it for them?
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I think that theory has been proven wrong in the US. Look how great welfare goes. Those people aren't using the help to pull themselves up. The majority of them are living on it from generation to generation as they fatten themselves up because they buy junk food and sit around all day doing much of nothing. Some people use it for good but not many.
I think the whole issue revolves around people taking responsibility for themselves. If you're fat, realize why you are fat and fix it. Do you have to work to do that? Hell, yeah. But if people don't want to buy and consume healthy food and move the body in some way, then they will stay fat. And that is not only an unattractive sight, but carries many health risks. Survival of the fittest I suppose...
Even if a person is working crazy schedules and is pulled every which way...how hard is it to make a pot of beans and rice? Yes, you do have to open the can and boil the rice and wait about 20 minutes. I guess that is exhausting for some people. Don't like beans and rice? There are a ton of cheap 30 minute or less meals that are extremely tasty and healthful.
The main reasons that I see, in no particular order, are:
1) lack of nutritional education
2) lack of self-control/discipline
3) laziness
4) genetics
Lack of money isn't the issue..healthy food is actually somewhat cheaper, as has been mentioned earlier in this thread.
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Originally Posted by abaya
No. Just that usually, there is more going on (both in the causes and consequences of poverty) than a lack of bootstrap-type initiative. Not all of us have the skills or resources to get out of a shitty spot, and it's not for lack of trying.
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Some people maybe, but there was a lack of trying at some point in time.
Generational poverty is what I'm most familiar with. The parents are poor, they realize that their lives are shit too late and want better for their children. However, they don't know how to help their children because they didn't try in school and don't have the education. The kids see that in their parents and instead of thinking, "Wow, I don't want to be like my mom or dad." They think in their child brain, "My parents ain't got no education and we do fine." Then they grow up and realize too late that they should have taken advantage of the free education...and hence the generational cycle.
So while people may be trying, they are trying too late. People who hit a bump in the road and find themselves flat broke have the resources (i.e. education) to get out because they tried in the past and are still trying now. While it might take a while to dig out, the past accomplishments help.