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Old 05-25-2007, 11:08 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by willravel
And your years of clinical experience with behaviorism and multiple PHDs can back that up?


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Originally Posted by willravel
Honestly, it's way more complicated than you think, and the fact that you keep repeating 'idiot' just makes you look insensitive and presumptuous. I'm not saying you are presumptuous, but if you keep insisting that addiction is a symptom of being an idiot, you're not going to make yourself look all that good. Again, I'm not an expert, but I do have some training and some experience with addiction. I can assure you that being addicted to something rarely has something to do with being an idiot.
Is "way more" a technical term used to describe a specific unit of complication? I don't have multiple PhDs, so I figured I'd better ask before I make myself look insensitive and presumptuous.

Addiction itself is separate from becoming addicted to something. Rather than comment on the hilarious "big mac = heroin" theory you're purporting, let's instead focus on heroin itself. Heroin is bad. It is an addictive substance. Do I want to become addicted to heroin? No. Do I, then, use heroin? No. Is heroin a necessary desire, a "need" for anyone? No. Should, then, anyone use heroin who does not seek to become addicted to it? No. Do people wake up one day addicted to heroin? No. At some point a heroin addict made a stupid decision, followed by another stupid decision, and then another. People who repeatedly make stupid decisions are idiots. I don't feel sorry for idiots when they destroy themselves. That said, I support the legalization of heroin.

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Originally Posted by Kadath
No one is addicted to fast food. To compare it to heroin is disingenuous.

To say that an addiction can be conquered by force of will is foolish and speaks out of ignorance of addiction.
Perhaps the issue is that the word "addiction" is used too loosely. "Addiction" to fast food, shopping, caffeine, peeping-tommery, etc is all conquerable by force of will. Heroin, crack/cocaine, etc are a different story, though the initial behaviors which result in the addiction are just as stupid as those of McDonald's "addicts."
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