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Originally Posted by host
Surely aceventura3's defense of president Bush....a quote from a famous WWII Winston Churchill speech that was used by ace to demonstrate that wartime leaders "lie" to inspire commitment to a "great cause" (I guess that was ace's point....he didn't offer a specific Churchill "falsehood" that could be compared to all of the false or misleading Bush pronouncements....posted up to that point in this discussion...) cannot be all that Bush's supporters have to post in his defense?
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If we start at the begining and look at Bush's first speech requesting authorization for war, which you say is based on lies, I then look at other historical leaders and look at what they said at the dawn of war. Chruchhill painted a picture of the enemy, that at the time was not proven true. He says without victory there is no survival. He talks about his plan, and it is simply to wage war. He says they will do what needs to be done, were there violations of civil liberties, did he stretch the spirit of their laws for what he though was the common good? What do you think? Or, do you need experts to connect the dots, and tell you what to think in relation to how leaders have conducted affairs during war.