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Old 05-24-2007, 05:33 PM   #76 (permalink)
jorgelito
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Originally Posted by pig
well, i'd say the fact that a school is supposed to teach 'facts' while educating our children, in line with accepted knowledge in the field of study germane to the classroom, and that ID has no factual basis is a rather good reason not to teach it. shall we make a list of things we could teach our children about that they don't have to actually believe in? do you want all that taught as well?
Supposed to, but "facts" are relative. I still remember my old social studies book that talked about the "races" and how negroes were sex crazed. My astronomy text book is now hopelessly out of date because the old "fact" of Pluto being a planet is no longer valid. Oh man, don't even get started on the history books, the "facts" contained therein are fodder for war....

So yeah, "facts" really have no bearing here.

I think the better argument would be to keep religion in its own classroom and science in another. Seems reasonable to me. If people want to bring it up or mention it then good, they can have a nice debate in class.

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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
should we teach that the holocausts never happened to please the holocaust deniers? the only thing that belongs in our schools is the truth, if there was serious debate that the holocaust did not happen, it would be given time in the history classes, just like ID, there is no serious debate of it's authenticity, thus it is not taught.
But it is still imformative to mention that Holocaust deniers exist. So you could still feasably mention that an alternative theory called ID exists etc...

Holcaust denial debates are terrific in class and a great learning tool. I can't even count how many times I've experienced Holocaust denial discussions in class from the 8th grade on.

Likewise, ID would bring an interesting element to the debate.

I strongly disagree that religious people should be banned from teaching positions. I find that position to be highly idiotic as there is no basis to make that assertion.

My father is a devout evangelist and a highly respected professor (of science) at elite universities. According to the prevailing logic, he should then be barred from teaching? I disagree.

Here's the best part: My father, the devout religious man, believes in aliens.

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