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Old 05-24-2007, 04:10 AM   #68 (permalink)
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taltos, my suggestion would be the following; if you want to take on educational censorship, work on getting the joy of sex or the kama sutra taught in health class. the problem with ID isn't simply some censorship issue; it's not at all like refusing to teach kids about something like, i don't know...birth control in sex ed, and instead telling them only about abstinence. we know that birth control / condoms work and do what they are supposed to do. on the other hand THERE IS NOTHING TO SUPPORT THE FUNDAMENTAL DEITY PRINCIPLE UNDERPINNING INTELLIGENT DESIGN IN A SCIENTIFIC SENSE. therefore, to teach it like it's science is WRONG in a scientific setting.

thus, if educational censorship is your beef; i'd suggest picking something that can be rationally defended on the ground where it will be taught, and frankly i'd pick something which doesn't appear to be a sneaky way to violate a core principle of our secular society. in my opinion, it would be as though i had a strong celtic family history ( i do ) and my grandfather was a little nuts (he was) and that he claimed to be able to dowse for water. now, if science class was talking about geology and the difficulty of finding clean water in new mexico, should i be able to get with my dowsing buddies and force that dowsing be given equal time with ways of finding water accepted by the us geological survey, or taught as though they were just alternate 'theories' of water finding? hey kids! make your own choices!

of course not! there's no proof to it other than the fact that i believe in it. which doesn't make it scientifically valid. that's pretty much the reason the scientific method was formulated; so you couldn't state things as 'facts,' without going through a tedious process to make sure you weren't concluding things based on personal bias. this ID shit is just a way to try to get rid of that whole pesky research and verify thing, because for some whackos that's just become inconvenient.
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