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Old 05-19-2007, 04:15 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Someone saying an image of a dead person (who, again, is not visibly harmed in any way other than being deceased) bothers you as being bad or violent, etc., has nothing to do with that someone then saying they don't "fear death". If the societal imprint of "death is something to shun and fear" in America hadn't made its mark on you, you would not find this image graphic- indeed, we may be the only country where seeing a plain dead body gets anywhere near this kind of "censor it!" reaction.

We're very happy in our complacency, in this country. We enjoy a lack of war within our borders and a comparatively (global) nonexistent amount of terrorism (really, just 9/11 as compared to many places where they've been terrorized for LONG periods of time).

We enjoy a very protected atmosphere in America- and rather than use that to nurture and teach the future generations, our parents spend their time trying to micromanage every else's life by dictating what can and cannot be broadcast in print, radio, and television. No one's kid will be irreversibly fucked in the head if they see some big naked women or a clean, whole dead guy laying on a gurney. They're just not.

Because if more breeders were parents, "the children" would be just fine... they would already be armed with something much better than any weapon- knowledge.

A naked woman! Shock and awe and ohnoes! Ah shit, some kid saw, now he's a serial killer rapist carjacker who gives babies the finger and never pays his taxes!!

I know many people who are screwed up and/or stupid young adults, and it wasn't because they were allowed to play violent videogames and watch movies with swearing and violence and nudity- it's because their parents didn't do a goddamn thing to raise them or teach them anything, and just sat them in front of the tv, which happened to be hosting their violent video games and movies with swearing and violence and nudity.

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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
I think the issue that you're missing is that we seem to find a naked living body more obscene than images of violence, whether real or not.
Actually, that was my third point... the double-standard.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but no one here has tried to make a case out of "saving the children."
1. I didn't say anyone did.

2. But for the record, the OP mentioned children, willravel mentioned children, and Jetstream brought it up directly (though I'm undecided if it was just to mess with me or if messing with me was just a bonus to his sincere opinion lol).

3. That doesn't mean my mockery of the "OMG TEH CHILDREN" is less applicable when this is precisely the sort of topic that would normally initiate that war cry. It's an inevitability that a conversation about censorship of violence and sex in the media will lead to protecting "the children".

Also: I can think of no better way to silence an absurd war cry like "what about the children" than to mock it and point out the weakness of its use as an argument.
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