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host · 05-13-2007, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by roachboy

the path becomes clear when the next step is taken:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world...078422,00.html

Five copies of Cheney's daughter's book 
Now It's My Turn: A Daughter's Chronicle of Political Life, are selling for 7 cents each, plus $3.99 shipping charge:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...8917862&sr=8-1

Sample of Jordanian commentator's reaction to Cheney's "visit":

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6641911.stm
ABD AL-BARI ADWAN in PAN-ARAB AL-QUDS AL-ARABI

Sending Cheney to the Arab region is the last arrow in President Bush's quiver before he admits defeat and waves the white flag of surrender firstly in Iraq and then in Afghanistan. He has failed in both states and seen al-Qaeda turn into several al-Qaedas thanks to this failure.

EDITORIAL in LEBANON'S THE DAILY STAR

Cheney's tour represents another desperate attempt on the part of the Bush administration to salvage the floundering US mission in Iraq. Cheney is himself largely to blame for the disastrous invasion and occupation of Iraq.

AYMAN AL-SAFADI in JORDAN'S AL-GHAD

Cheney's visit is aimed at only one thing, namely making neighbouring countries shoulder the responsibility of US failure in Iraq... Cheney is in the region on a rescue mission. He knows that the anger against the US policies in Iraq is basically anger against him personally, as he was the one behind the decision to go to war.

FAHD AL-FANIK in JORDAN'S AL-RA'Y

Cheney is not even taken seriously in his own country, so how can he expect to be taken seriously in the Middle East region, where he committed the grave mistake of invading Iraq and destroying an independent country that has nothing to do with terrorism and does not own weapons of mass destruction.....

Everyone in the M.E., and in the rest of the world, and 72 percent of AMerican adults in recent polling results, know how out of touch Bush and Cheney are, concerning their malicious folly of intrusion into Iraq, and the quagmire that they have kept the US Military coping with there, since....

Everyone...apparently, except for all of the leading 2008 republican "hopefuls"

....and here is the republican "solution" to the Bush/Cheney failed co-presidency:

Opinions from republican 2008 presidential frontrunners, per
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08rep.htm

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http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...50C0A962958260
'Freedom Is About Authority': Excerpts From Giuliani Speech on Crime
Published: March 20, 1994

.....We look upon authority too often and focus over and over again, for 30 or 40 or 50 years, as if there is something wrong with authority. We see only the oppressive side of authority. Maybe it comes out of our history and our background. What we don't see is that freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. <h3>Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.......</h3>

Is it willfully ceding freedom that makes one free? I thought it was "work" that did it:

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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/28/...n-mccain-iraq/
Transcript:

CNN’S JOHN ROBERTS: I wanted to talk to you about the situation in Iraq. Yesterday in an interview with Wolf Blitzer on The Situation Room. I want to play this back for you. You had this to say about the situation there.

[McCAIN CLIP]: General Petraeus goes out there almost every day in an unarmed humvee. I think you oughta catch up. You are giving the old line of three months ago. I understand it. We certainly don’t get it through the filter of some of the media.

ROBERTS: Senator, did you mean to say that, that General Petraeus goes out every day in an unarmed humvee?

SEN. JOHN McCAIN (R-AZ): I mean that there are neighborhoods safe in Iraq and he does go out into Baghdad and the fact is there has been significant progress and people are stuck in a time warp of three months ago. Of course, it’s still dangerous. Of course it’s still very dangerous. We only have two of the five brigades there and we are already seeing significant progress.

ROBERTS: Because I checked with General Petraeus’s people overnight and they said he never goes out in anything less than an up-armored humvee. You also told Bill Bennett on his radio program on Monday. You said there are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhood today yet retired General Barry McCaffrey said no Iraqi government official, coalition soldier, diplomat reporter could walk the streets of Baghdad without heavily armed protection. We’ve got two different stories here. Who’s right?

McCAIN: Well, I’m not saying they could go without protection. The President goes around America with protection. So, certainly I didn’t say that.

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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/014108.php
(May 13, 2007 -- 11:33 AM EDT)

It was a credibility-killing moment for John McCain. Last month, the senator insisted that there are parts of Baghdad are safe for Americans to go for a stroll and that General Petraeus travels around the city "almost every day in a non-armed Humvee." Obviously, that was wrong. McCain took this to the next step, of course, when he went to a Baghdad market, surrounded himself with 100 soldiers, three Blackhawk helicopters, and two Apache gunships, and then told reporters that was able to walk freely in Iraq's capital.

Tim Russert asked him about this on Meet the Press this morning. McCain responded:

"I'll be glad to back to that market -- with or without military protection and Humvees, etc."

It's hard to believe anyone will be impressed by this misplaced bravado, but it's worth remembering that the day after McCain took a heavily-protected stroll that market, <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1604931.ece">21 Shia</a> market workers were ambushed, bound, and shot at the same location.

Nevertheless, McCain thinks he can go for an unescorted walk in Baghdad? It's as if he's given up on being taken seriously altogether.

When a once-proud man becomes a joke, it's a sad thing to watch.

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http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...11/188705.aspx
The <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/10/AR2007051002129.html">Washington Post</a> previews his upcoming “60 Minutes” interview. “… Romney told CBS News's Mike Wallace that the Bush administration made ‘a number of errors’ in the prosecution of the Iraq war. ‘I don't think we were adequately prepared for what occurred. I don't think we did enough planning. I don't think we considered the various downsides and risks,’ says Romney, according to a transcript of Sunday's ‘60 Minutes’ released Thursday. But the Republican presidential hopeful said Bush's "surge" strategy deserves time to work.”

As we mentioned earlier, Romney is this week’s <a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1619552,00.html?xid=rss-topstories">Time</a> cover boy. The focus of the piece is on his religion: "But Mitt Romney's candidacy raises a broader issue: Is the substance of private beliefs off-limits? You can ask if a candidate believes in school vouchers and vote for someone else if you disagree with the answer. But can you ask if he believes that the Garden of Eden was located in Jackson County, Mo., as the Mormon founder taught, and vote against him on the grounds of that answer? Or, for that matter, because of the kind of underwear he wears?"

and here is "the guy" who some hope will join the republican presidential "race":

Here is what Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid actually said:

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,267181,00.html
"Now I believe, myself, that the secretary of state, the secretary of defense and you have to make your own decision as to what the president knows: that this war is lost, that the surge is not accomplishing anything," Reid, D-Nev., told reporters.

.....and here is "potential" republican candidate Fred Thompson's reaction:

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269631,00.html
Fred Thompson on Possible 2008 White House Run

Wednesday, May 02, 200

.......HANNITY: The biggest battle we have is this war on terror, this battle in Iraq. We have a really deep divide in the country. Senator Reid says the war is lost. We still have to finish the job there. Where do you stand in general on the war on terror and, more specifically, in Iraq, and on the divide surrounding Iraq?

THOMPSON: Well, let's talk about Senator Reid for a moment. Right before I came over here, I was sitting outside, getting a bite to eat, before we did our interview. A young woman came up and asked if she could sit down and talk to me a minute. Her name was Koeller (ph). She worked over at Morgan Stanley, but she had gone to West Point, and she had been a captain in the Army, and she was at the DMZ in South Korea at the time of 9/11.

I asked her what she thought about this. She said, "How in the world can anyone, any one of our leaders, declare war, declare that the war has been lost when we've got troops in the field? My friends are over there in the field. I know what they think about this."

And, of course, it's just like all other Americans think. The very idea that they would do this and undercut our efforts over there is unprecedented. And it's not only unprecedented; it's awful politics.

We should not be fearful of these people politically. We just need to concentrate on what's right. What is right? We need to take advantage of any opportunity we've got down there. I've got a lot of faith in Petraeus. I knew him when he was at Fort Campbell when I was in the Senate. He tells me we've got a shot? We've got to take that shot.

We also have to keep in mind, though, there's going to be a day after Iraq. And whether we leave there under our own terms or not, it's still going to be a very dangerous world. If we leave there under bad circumstances, we're going to have a haven down there for terrorists. The whole area, I'm afraid, will become nuclearized.

The Sunni countries are looking at what Iran is doing. And if we can't help with stability in that part of the world, they're going to help themselves, and they're going to go nuclear, in terms of weaponry and the ability to counteract what Iran's doing. The whole region is up for grabs.

HANNITY: And how do we deal with that? We've got the short-term problem of Harry Reid. We've got the political problem. Harry Reid says we lost. We've got to win in Iraq. Then you have the possibility of the two things you mentioned earlier. You combine Islamic fanaticism and nuclear technology, and you've got a guy, Ahmadinejad, to add to the equation that wants to wipe Israel off the map. You're president of the United States; that's a big burden to have on your shoulders.

THOMPSON: Of course it is, but it's the number-one challenge of this century and will be for a long time. And all these other things, all these other issues are important at different levels. This overwhelms everything else........

Who among them would ever hold Bush or Cheney accountable for any crimes against humanity?
How can any of them be considered intelligent or able enough to be the POTUS when they embrace all of the failed and illegal Bush policies, and the rhetoric, in the face of the sub 30 percent Bush Cheney support, according to polls, and everything that we know, and have shared in linked references, throughout this forum?