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Old 05-10-2007, 08:09 AM   #172 (permalink)
pan6467
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I see so because:

he's a Mormon, and Pat ("I have God's stamp of approval on my Ass") Robertson talked about how evil and non christian Mormons are,

a presidential candidate,

and Sharpton is THE Rev. Al Sharpton and being ordained twice means he knows far more about religion than anyone else...... this was ok.

I truly see something now, I always wanted not to believe, people will jump on the bandwagon and do the popular thing, spew the "popular" viewpoint and not care about what is wrong or right.

Obviously some of you didn't even read the whole post, because you started with "well Imus said it about fresh faced college girls..... did ya see where I made the rebuttal to that in my post? Yet, ya didn't say anything about it. I guess the fresh faced college girls at BYU and the wholesome Osmond family deserve to be told they don't believe in God the right way.

I truly wonder if he had said this (or some other prejudicial, divisive, bigotorial statement) about Obama or Hilary or any Democrat, if some of you defending and saying it is ok for Sharpton to say this.....would say that then or would be calling for Sharpton's head.

Personally, from day 1 this argument has never been about Imus or now Sharpton, it has been about labels.

If you knock one person for labelling someone, then you damned best knock everyone who labels. If you want to argue that "it's fresh faced college girls" as opposed to a politician and his whole denomination.... that argument means squat, because you then state the value of one person's feelings are worth more than another's...... and that is bullshit and prejudicial and biased right there, not to mention hypocritical because in the end as this thread and arguments here and in other threads show and in all life aspects...... people in the end care only about their own feelings.

If the press had played this up (as they did with Imus) and Hilary or Obama came out and separated themselves from Sharpton and demanded he appologize...... would any of you then reverse what you say? It's easy to say you wouldn't when knowing that will never happen so you will not be called on it.

This would be funny if it weren't so ridiculously scary.

So I just want to make sure I understand the limitations on my freedom of speech........ after all I do give lectures now and am becoming somewhat a known figure in my profession.....

I can tear a presidential candidate's religion apart (I don't mention his views, his platform... what I disagree with etc). I just say "As for the one Mormon running for office, those that really believe in God will defeat him anyway, so don't worry about that. That's a temporary situation." and make sure it is a GOP candidate and all is ok.

So I can tell people now that those who do not believe in GOD the way I do will never find recovery, right?

LABELS ARE WRONG AND IF ONE PERSON NEEDS CENSORED FOR HIS LABELLING OF OTHERS EVERYONE NEEDS CENSORED WHEN THEY LABEL... DOESN'T MATTER WHO IS HURT, WHO WAS LABELLED.

THERE IS NO DEFENSE FOR A PERSON WHO BITCHED ABOUT ANOTHER LABELING TO ALLOW SOMEONE ELSE TO LABEL OR TO LABEL OTHERS THEMSELVES.

The knife cuts both ways and you can not have it one way but allow it another. Either you censor everyone and demand retribution, job, etc from ALL who label, or you don't.

To pick and choose who can label, who can say prejudicial, biased, hatefilled divisive public statements and who can't is wrong, morally, ethically and in every possible way.

You want to take one person's free speech away for labelling someone and make excuses why it's ok, and then within weeks talk about how it is ok for another to speak hate on a WHOLE DENOMINATION OF RELIGIOUS peoples..... it sounds not only hypocritical but fucking nuts.

As an aside........ did Sharpton and Jackson ever appologize for the things they said about the Duke players (that have been vindicated)???????

Oh yeah, Sharpton and Jackson were allowed to get away with that because it was the right racist hatespeak.... it was against rich white kids and not vice versa...... how evil I am for thinking they should appologize.
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