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Originally Posted by tecoyah
Americans, in general do not know what they want in this.....it's extremely complicated. On the one hand I think we all want Iraq to be a safe, healthy, and functional State capable of sustaining itself and creating stability in the region.
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I think this is the basis of Bush's strategy and his plans come from that. I think my confusion with the Democrats is that I don't know what their stated goal is. Do they simply want to reomve the troops? Do they want to move the fight to Afghanistan? Do they want what Bush wants as stated above? Do they think we are even at war?
I think if the Democrats could clearly communicate what the underlying basis for their plan is, I could understand where they want to take us.
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On the other hand we really can't accept that People are Dying in huge numbers for a plan that seems incapable of bringing this about. I doubt very much ANY policy change at this point can correct the situation, and create a dynamic in the area that will lead to peaceful resolution.
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That is the conclusion I have reached. However, I think if we were unified and agreed on the reasons why we are fighting in Iraq we could bring this to a relatively peaceful end.
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Expecting the Democrats in congress to fix this mess is rather disingenuous on the part of anyone attempting to understand just how screwed up Iraq now is. We have managed to remove the infrastructure (what there was of it) of prosperity, thereby creating instability in the population and making any hopefor peace in the region unobtainable. At the same time we have placed our troops into the middle of the inevitable civil strife, poverty, and religious powerplay likely to come about in the aftermath of an invasion within the area.
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If our elected leaders can not step up and fix this, who will? At some point we have to make a national comitment to one plan to fix this or another one. I think the idea of a date certain or providing funding every couple of months based on subjective goals is unrealistic. If it were me, I would comitt to win or withdraw, no time-tables, no bench-marks, either all in to win or all out.
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The history of the middle east should have been payed attention to before we took on something NO ONE in history has managed to succeed at, Peace in the middle east. Case in Point:
http://www.mapsofwar.com/images/EMPIRE17.swf
The Democrats it seems, have come to the realization that this was a terrible mistake, and as the current leadership on high is blind to the obvious they are in the inenviable position of trying to get us out of an unwinnable situation. Sucks to be them.
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All they (or anyone) have to do is act on what they think is right. I don't think that is difficult.