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Old 05-01-2007, 01:42 PM   #84 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
I am faulting him for not diisclosing that there was conflicting intelligence when he made his case to the public (your earlier point that it would taken too much time in his short speeches is a ridiculous rationalization....it would have taken 2 more minutes each time he talked about the Saddams's nuclear capabilities and the threat he posed to the US). IMO, this was less than honorable.
I got that. My counter point is that there is always conflicting intelligence in any analysis of a complex decision. One can not rely on a single source, Bush or whoever, to buy into going to war.

Personally I have never experienced making a tough decision where I Had 100% certainty. when I make decsions on complex issues, I create a short list of the major reasons why I made the decision and use that list to sell my decision. In your book I lie all the time. In my book, I come to my decision and present it to others with confidence and certainty. Perhaps, you can follow a leader who waffles, I can't or won't. I need a guy who believes in his decision and "sells" it that way. People who focus on the reasons not to do something after they have made the decision to do it are not going to be effective. You are either all in or you are not (if you need more cliches, let me know).

It becomes more clear the more time I spend here the difference between a mind like yours and a mind like mine (I am not passing judgement, but there are differences).

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Originally Posted by dc_dux
And I am faulting him for his public comments that Congress had access to the same intelligence he had when they clearly did not. On this issue,the facts are indisputable no matter how you try to spin it... he lied to the American people.
Congress had the same intelligence I had and I supported the war. For this point to stick you have to understand when Bush made his decision and what information he used. I think he used the information that everyone knew. I think he clearly stated what information he used. Your position assumes he used information that was highly classified, where is the evidence of that?
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