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4thTimeLucky · 05-31-2003, 06:14 AM

reconmike

The thread was started about Rumsfeld's remarks that the WMDs may have been detsroyed pre-war.

I noted in my first post that this could fall into one of two scenarios:
1) Weapons detroyed pre-1441
2) Weapons destroyed after 1441

Then gonadman said that IF scenario (1) was true (the only scenario I have a real problem with) THEN the issues are (a) were the US aware and (b) why Hussein didn't reveal the lack of weapons.
You supported his post.

I then replied (using capital letters as here) that IF the weapons were destroyed pre-1441 THEN the US is guilty of either gross negligence due to criminally poor information or of lying to us about what they knew and illegally invading on the back of those lies.

If there are WMD or they were proven to be destroyed post-1441 then my points are moot*. I would still think the use of force was utterly disproprotionate to the threat, but that would be a seperate objection.

I hope that clears things up. I do not find it unthinkable that there ARE WMD, I just find it very revealing that the US is beginning to prepare us for the fact that there may not be.

*thanks to seretogis for spotting that my arguments would be redundant rather than silent.

05-31-2003, 06:14 AM	#19 (permalink)
4thTimeLucky Psycho Location: 4th has left the building - goodbye folks	reconmike The thread was started about Rumsfeld's remarks that the WMDs may have been detsroyed pre-war. I noted in my first post that this could fall into one of two scenarios: 1) Weapons detroyed pre-1441 2) Weapons destroyed after 1441 Then gonadman said that IF scenario (1) was true (the only scenario I have a real problem with) THEN the issues are (a) were the US aware and (b) why Hussein didn't reveal the lack of weapons. You supported his post. I then replied (using capital letters as here) that IF the weapons were destroyed pre-1441 THEN the US is guilty of either gross negligence due to criminally poor information or of lying to us about what they knew and illegally invading on the back of those lies. If there are WMD or they were proven to be destroyed post-1441 then my points are moot. I would still think the use of force was utterly disproprotionate to the threat, but that would be a seperate objection. I hope that clears things up. I do not find it unthinkable that there ARE WMD, I just find it very revealing that the US is beginning to prepare us for the fact that there may not be. thanks to seretogis for spotting that my arguments would be redundant rather than silent. __________________ I've been 4thTimeLucky, you've been great. Goodnight and God bless! Last edited by 4thTimeLucky; 05-31-2003 at 10:49 AM..