ace....I am left with the impression that you "skipped over" the most prominent quote in my last post....the one from president Bush, on March 8, 2003:
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...ium-usat_x.htm
Posted 7/8/2003 9:46 PM Updated 7/9/2003 10:07 PM
........Back home, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Wednesday that the administration decided to use military force in Iraq because the information about the threat of Saddam's regime was seen with a different perspective after the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.
<b>"The coalition did not act in Iraq because we had discovered dramatic new evidence of Iraq's pursuit of weapons of mass murder," Rumsfeld said. "We acted because we saw the existing evidence in a new light through the prism of our experience on Sept. 11."..........</b>
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ace....the Tenet quotes can be viewed in part two of the 60 Minutes interview, here:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/0...s-his-silence/
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...75_page5.shtml
George Tenet: At The Center Of The Storm
Former CIA Director Breaks His Silence (page 6 of 7)
...."Did anyone at the White House, did anyone in the defense department ever ask you whether we should go to war in Iraq?" Pelley asks.
"The discussions that are on-going in 2002 in the spring and summer of 2002 are 'How you might do this?' Not whether you should do this," Tenet says.
"Nobody asks?" Pelley asks.
"Well, I don't remember sitting down in a principles committee meeting and everybody saying, 'Okay, there's a deep concern about Iraq. Is this the right thing to do? What are the implications?' I don’t ever remember that galvanizing moment when people sit around and honestly say 'Is this the right thing to do?'"......
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and this is in the NY Times article in my "Tenet book" thread, OP:
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......“There was never a serious debate that I know of within the administration about the imminence of the Iraqi threat,” Mr. Tenet writes in a devastating judgment that is likely to be debated for many years.
Nor, he adds, “was there ever a significant discussion” about the possibility of containing Iraq without an invasion......
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<b>ace....if you consider what Tenet said in his new book, and the quote from Rumsfeld in the above July, 2003 USA Today reporting, and the evidence in the "Downing Street Memos" that the US was "fixing the facts around the policy" to invade Iraq....it is not unreasonable to view the following Bush statement as a lie:</b>
....so, ace....is it more reasonable to believe that Bush's <b>"We are doing everything we can to avoid war in Iraq"</b>, is misleading to the point, considering that it is about a life or death matter...of the gravity of whether or not "everything" is being done to avoid, going to war, that it is a lie....since it was the opposite....every effort was being made to justify a preemptive invasion of Iraq, while attempting to convince the world that it is a imminently necessary,....and legal thing to do, or is there a way to believe that Bush was telling us the truth about <b>"doing everything we can to avoid war in Iraq"?</b>
We went to war without anyone in the executive branch asking the director of central intelligence if he thought it was the correct thing to do, whether is was necessary, and whether there were other alternatives other than going to war, to deal with the "threat" of Saddam's Iraq. How could Bush then say that <b>"We are doing everything we can to avoid war in Iraq"?</b> Consider that Bush had enough confidence in Tenet, after March, 2003, to keep him as CIA director until Tenet himself decided to resign, in July, 2004.
Combine a preemptive "war of choice" with the information that Tenet was not asked about alternatives to war, or whether war was the correct decision, and I see evidence that Bush and Cheney committed the "ultimate crime against humanity"; illegal war of aggression!
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
....What was our motivation for this illegal war? Territory? Oil? Genocide? Spices? Trade routes? What?.....
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ace, one "answer" is right, below.....I include it in all of my posts....the quote from Bush, on <b>August 16, 2006:</b>