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Old 04-27-2007, 09:46 AM   #36 (permalink)
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IMO, articles of impeachment should be drawn up in the house for Bush and Cheney, immediately. George Tenet should be subpoenaed as a key witness, and kept in custody of the congress, in a "safe house".

Benjamin Ferencz should be enlisted by the house impeachment committee as their counsel, since the main charge agains the POTUS and his VP involve crimes against the US Constitution....willful violations of international treaties that the US senate has ratified, past POTUS's have signed, and that the US has been an enthusiastic party to, and enforcer of....for many years.

I've detailed my support for the above in a new thread, here:
<b>Poll: George Tenet's New Book: Is US in Iraq Similar "Aggressive War" Charged at Nuremberg</b>
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=116872

I don't know what more any of you, or anyone in congress with respect for the US Constitution, and of the principles that we in the U.S. all hold dear, would need before you would take Kucinich and his charges more seriously.
I'm puzzled....are you worn down by cynicism....IMO, this is "it". Tenet lays it out simply and precisely in his new book:
Quote:
George J. Tenet, the former director of central intelligence, has lashed out against Vice President Dick Cheney and other Bush administration officials in a new book, saying they pushed the country to war in Iraq
without ever conducting a “serious debate” about whether Saddam Hussein posed an imminent threat to the United States....

.......“There was never a serious debate that I know of within the administration about the imminence of the Iraqi threat,” Mr. Tenet writes in a devastating judgment that is likely to be debated for many years.
<b>Nor, he adds, “was there ever a significant discussion” about the possibility of containing Iraq without an invasion.......</b>
I've never been discouraged from calling what happened in Iraq, what it is....a crime of "War of aggression"....what was described by US prosecutors at Nuremberg as the "ultimate crime against humanity"....because it spawns so many other crimes, once such a war is pursued.
Quote:
http://www.roberthjackson.org/Man/Sp...arris_Tyranny/
<b>The Crime Of Waging Aggressive War</b>

An Address by Whitney R. Harris

Prosecutor at the Trial of the Major German War Criminals
At Nuremberg and the Author of TYRANNY ON TRIAL
The Robert H. Jackson Center
October 1, 2004

.........We need not trouble ourselves about the many abstract difficulties that can be conjured up about what constitutes aggression in doubtful cases… By all the canons of plain sense, these were unlawful wars of aggression in breach of treaties and in violation of assurances.”

Justice Jackson observed that these were the wars of aggression of the defendants in the dock. He concluded his closing speech with this analogy. “[These defendants] stand before the record of this trial as blood-stained Gloucester stood by the body of his slain king. He begged of the widow, as they beg of you: ‘Say I slew them not.’ And the Queen replied, ‘Then say they were not slain.” But dead they are…’ If you were to say of these men that they are not guilty, it would be as true to say there has been no war, there are no slain, there has been no crime.”

Upon the conclusion of the arguments of counsel, the case was submitted to the Tribunal for its opinion that was issued on October 1, 1946, precisely fifty-eight years ago to this very day. On the issue of aggressive war, the Tribunal declared: “The charges in the indictment that the defendants planned and waged aggressive war are charges of the utmost gravity. War is essentially an evil thing. Its consequences are not confined to the belligerent states alone, but affect the whole world. To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”

The Tribunal held that of the twenty-two defendants brought to trial before it, twelve were guilty of the crime of waging aggressive war. ..........
Nothing will happen unless each of us can admit to ourselves that our elected leaders seem to have done this....ordered it....knowing that it was avoidable and not justified by an "imminent threat". It's time to drop the cyniscism...time to shit or get off the pot !
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