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Old 04-26-2007, 01:47 PM   #32 (permalink)
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ok so now the argument is different.

as for "taking out saddam hussein the first time"--there was no mandate for that. it couldnt have happened. you're dreaming if you think otherwise--as were those fine fellows at theproject for a new american century when they cooked up the idea of a second war--as much a fuck you to the united nations as one against iraq--to right the percieved wrong done to amurica and the john wayne for which it stands.

on the second part---in a way i almost agree with you: the debacle in iraq should be ended. this is a priority, and there should be a showdown in the coming days over this, if bush vetoes the bill that the senate just passed.

but this does not obviate the obvious fact that the administration presented a false case for war in the first place.

the fact of the war in iraq is also a very considerable political liability for the united states internationally, and much is at stake in generating the impression--if not the reality--that the system can correct itself.

so the administration absolutely should be held to account for the fact of the war itself. period. whether this can extend to impeachment or not, i dont know--i doubt that kucinich's articles will go anywhere at the momentm, but like i said earlier, the situation is not stable and parameters may well change.

on iran: the idea of invading iran is pure and simple lunacy. the only reason to even consider such a move is transparently about the administration looking to prop itself up. but the consequences will be a fiasco that will make iraq look like a day in the park. there are no justifications for any such action in any event. ahmadinejad is in an even weaker political position than is george w bush: there is not reason to not expect that his government will fall WITHOUT an american action--though of course (again parallel with the american administration) the best thing that could happen to a weakened reactionary is a nice little war.
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