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Old 04-26-2007, 11:31 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
How is it possible not to filter (cherry pick or whatever you want to call it) through tons of data to make a case on anything, yet alone a war? Seems to me it can not be done. Perhaps we can disagree on the importance of certain information, etc., but everyone should have a right to make their case. So he is guilty of picking information that supports his desire to invade Iraq, isn't it up to those against war to do their due diligence? Perhaps they should be removed from any position of responsibility too.
ace, i have to say that while i recognize the seriousness of the point you're making, i think that this underscores exactly the problem with this administration, similarly to what ratbastid just pointed out. the idea is for the people in charge to look at the data, and then develop a position...not to take a position, then pull facts to support it. that's the entire problem, in a nutshell. they did the latter...and now its backfiring bigtime. not just on them, but the whole country is catching it for that fuck up.

as for kucinich, i agree that to say he doesn't have political motivations is definitely naive...he's a politician. if this issue keeps the questions about many of this administration's policies and procedures in the spot light and / or motivates others to seriously question them, then i think its a victory. just putting impeachment on the table is a big step.

edit: mega-dittos to jazz too.

/god, i love being able to type "mega-fucking-dittos"

additionally, as for the political aspects; don't forget that its just as likely that such a move will lose him votes instead of gaining them. while a lot of people may think cheney is the spawn of satan, we tend to do a bit of rally-round-the-flagpole when its a question of military engagement. at least until it gets really bad, and frankly with the insulation most americans have from this war we're not at the point of losing faith completely on a national scale.
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