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Old 04-24-2007, 07:52 AM   #82 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
ace....read what I wrote...."Recent history suggests it goes more one way than the other". That does not imply a "one-sided thing", rather it suggests a "tilt" to the right with more Repub abuses and excesses than Dems when it comes to recent Congressional oversight by a majority party of a Pres of the opposing party.
You are correct. However, recent history, in this context, is simply a function of the party in control. I am sure the Democrats have plans to make up for lost time, included are these Gonzales hearings.

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And the facts bear me out if you take the time to look objectively.
I am not sure if we really disagree on the issue, which is why I am confused by what you are saying.

I think the "revenge" cycle is real in Washington, you seem to agree.

When the Republican party was in control they abused power to embarass Democrats, you seem to agree. I agree that the worst abuse of power in my lifetime was the Clinton investigation and impeachment garbage, you seem to agree.

When Democrats were in control they abused power to embarass Republicans, I guess you agree but I am not sure. And if you do agree I guess you think the Democratic Party abuses pale in comparision to abuses by Republicans-excluding the Clinton matter.

And now with Democrats in control I am not sure if you think Democrats are going to showing restraint or not, but I do not and the Gonzales hearings is an example of that. Perhaps this is the key point of our disagreement.

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Or post your own facts to make the case (as I asked) that Dem revenge against Reagan or GHW Bush was anything near the level of the Repub Congress "grandstanding" and "milking" of Clinton...and you can even include Dem hearings on Reagan-Iran/Contral and GHW Bush-BCCI/Iraqgate (illegal funding of arms to Iraq)...both having far more serious national policy implications that Clinton's affair.
I have stated here and in other threads what I thought about the Clinton matter.

In my opinion this Gonzales hearing is an example of what I am talking about - between this thread and the other thread on the Gonzales matter, this issue has been beat to death. Doing the same with other past issues does not interest me. I am more interested in discussing current events. I have no plans on going through the historical record to provide examples.
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