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Old 04-19-2007, 09:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by roachboy
i have to say that i am following what is being asked about here less as the thread begins to unfold. i think this may follow from the kind of work that i do, which uses determinism in the ontological sense in quite a different way than it is being used here, and which views with great suspicion moves that jump across registers (from propositions involving subatomic physics and problems of observation to questions of religion/metaphysics for example)....

could you try to be clearer about the logic involved here?
i dont see it.
i could lay out a speculative framework that would link things together, but at the moment am pressed for time....

thanks.
This is what I want to know, everything else thus has been more of a tangent:

"I have personally subscribed to the idea of determinism for some time now. One of the ideas that I have held to be true is that if we were to go back in time 1 week from today, and observe the events over again, they would happen the same way as long as no variables were changed...

My question to my fellow TFP members is this: if one were to go back in time, would the events happen the same way if you don't change anything?"

I admit my understanding of physics is limited by my knowledge and experience. However, my question really boils down to this.

If the movements of particles cannot be predicted and they act randomly without cause. Does this affect things on a larger scale? Because essentially everything would still have the same properties, the same amount of protons and electrons for example. I mean, could the randomness of particles affect say the ideas in our head. Because since you mind is made up of particles and if those are acting randomly that means I could type all this now, but if we went back in time 20 min. ago. Would it be slightly different? Personally, the more I think about it, the crazier it sounds.

My hope is was that someone with a better understanding of the physics and quantum physics could maybe enlighten me on how much of an affect the random movements of particles could have on people.
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