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Originally Posted by asaris
I've posted plenty here on determinism and why I think it's false; basically, it doesn't allow for moral action, and I take moral action as a given.
I believe that the interpretation you give is the Copenhagen interpretation, which is the more prominent among physicists. But I don't think there's anything about Heisenberg's law which compels it.
In any case, even if the activity of elementary particles is random, that doesn't help the free will case, since random activity isn't any more free than determined activity.
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I noticed another major thread on here about determinism and I posted on that thread recently. Your right in what you say about determinism, it doesn't exactly allow for moral action. However, that doesn't mean its not true.
You are right in the case of this argument and its affect on human morality. Either way, people are not responsible for what they do and you have no control over your life.
Why make that assumption that moral action is a given? Because its not fair? What is not fair is that someone is born into poverty and "God" gave them lower than average intelligence and when they kill someone else we see it as they made a bad choice. We hold them responsible for their decision, even though they didn't decide to be abused as a child, or to grow up starving half their life, etc.
Then, when someone goes through life with above average intelligence, and I can tell you anyone of you who would spend time in the philosophy section on TFP has at least average intelligence, maybe you grew up poor, and while, who knows but we will assume, that you may have been abused, you had the logic and other influences on your life to allow you to overcome that. With all those factors that one does not have control over, to take pride in your choices throughout your life is not right either.