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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Laws like drug laws or driving laws, etc. when broken, only deal with victimless crimes....i.e. the only one hurt by the broken law is the person that broke it.
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Ohh really? Tell that to the people killed by drunk drivers, aggressive drivers, speeding drivers, drugged drivers, people who step on an HIV infected syringe in a park, ect. There are victims in these crimes.
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Background checks already stop law abiding citizens from getting guns.
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Law abiding should not be the only qualification, there should also be formal training (like we do with driving), and mental evaluations to make sure they are mentally sound people.
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This is fully documented all over the internet. If a process or law infringes on a general citizens ability to exercise a right, then that process is much too prohibitive.
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There is documentation all over the internet saying all kinds of things that are not true. The internet in general is not a reliable source.
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In a nation that was designed to keep the PEOPLE in power, over that of an oppressive government with a highly armed military at their disposal, so that individual rights could be protected, I find it sadly ironic that a large group of people are actively politicking to have that exact structure the founders were afraid to be put in to place.
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You mean that exact structure we are trying to place in Iraq? Do you have a problem with gun control in Iraq? If not then you should not have a problem with it here. I believe every fundamental right granted to American citizens should be granted to all nations not just ours. And all people within our jurisdiction should also have those said rights with the obvious exception of voting in our elections. If we are willing to cry out when someone prevents us from doing something then we should not be attempting to stop others from doing that very same thing because that would make us hypocrites.
As a tangental discussion I'd like to look at the idea that many students are carrying weapons. Someone in one class room starts shooting. People start screaming and yelling shooter. People with guns in other class rooms grab their guns and start running in the halls. All the sudden we have people running around looking to shoot someone with a gun while they have a gun. What is going to stop all of these people from shooting each other? Then the police come and see people with guns shooting each other and they pull out their guns and start shooting them because they are unable to identify the real shooter from the people with guns.
That is a very bad but likely situation if everyone comes running with guns. People that are not trained panic, they do not know how to react and they react poorly. The situation could get much worse because of lots of people having guns.
Being someone who has taught college courses I can tell you that I would not be comfortable with my students packing heat. Nor would most of my colleges.