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Old 04-18-2007, 03:05 PM   #233 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Originally Posted by Rekna
This did not appear on the "instant" background check. Virgina needs to reevaluate its instant background check as it is apparently way to lax.

All the warning signs where there. The University was warned by a professors, students had complained about him for stalking, he started a fire in his dorm room, and yet none of this showed up on a background check. I think the University was highly negligent in not reporting this information to police. Well these types of things are not always preventable this one most definitely was. Virgina really needs to improve there background checks.
The background check is a federal background check, not a state check. This is pursuant to the brady bill passed back when reagan was president. If there was a failure in the check system, it was due to federal negligence.

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Originally Posted by willravel
Rekna, yes this seems to have little or nothing to do with the Second Amendment and more to do with bad decision making by whomever is in charge of security and background checks. Anyone who would stalk or start a fire should require a psych profile (which could have prevented this massacre).
and if the shooter would have simply stolen a weapon or two, how would it then have been prevented? or bought a weapon off the street? or from a private party? The bottom line is that there is simply no possible way to prevent any person from obtaining a gun.

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Originally Posted by roachboy
having a gun does not make you free--it doesnt make you anything---a gun is a tool that no more tells you what to do with it than having a saw tells you how to cut pieces of wood to size for a building. to think otherwise would require that you also think that you can build a complex model spontaneously because you bought a tube of glue.
If you were accosted by someone with a gun and that person tells you to turn around, are you going to turn around or say no?

If that same person accosts me, i'm going to tell him no, as I draw my own gun against him. I am now FREE of being forced to submit to said attackers demands.

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Originally Posted by Rekna
I'm betting Virgina is going to be paying a lot of money in lawsuits for negligence.
The state will not be paying anything. If anyone pays money, it will be the university.
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Last edited by dksuddeth; 04-18-2007 at 03:10 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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