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Originally Posted by shakran
I don't think anyone here would have a problem with Smooth telling us that our argument is stupid. And if someone does, they need to get over it. Smooth crossed the line by calling the PERSON an idiot. Attack the ideas all you want, but realize that you are not dealing with retarded children here. Each of us is an adult, with our own intelligence and our own ideas on how things should be done. I don't expect everyone to agree with everything I say, but I expect them not to assume I'm stupid because they don't like what they read.
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Shakran, the day after...I'd appreciate it if you'd go back and re-read what I wrote because the instances where I used the word "dumb" were specifically aimed at
behavior and not the person.
At the start of the downward spiral, I was clear I valued his
opinion but not his analysis. Later, I requested that a mod lend a neutral voice to the assessment of the data (a suggestion I've made directly to Halx in terms of what role moderators might consider in a form of "pre-emptive" in-thread moderation). Even after that I reiterated that I valued his
opinion, that I took issue with the
analysis, and then labeled the inability or unwillingness to reassess the data in light of what I was explaining as "dumb." I also added misquoting people was "dumb", but I never labeled either of the persons behind those posts unintelligent. Both responses were limited to the behavior exhibited.
I don't know what calling a position or saying a person is being "obtuse" would resolve since my understanding is it means unintelligent, dull, lacking insight, etc. But I already apologized, because I recognize that my standards of certain things aren't the same as the communities. So it goes that I happened to have realized last night what pigglet alluded to regarding the past discussions on these types of things...basically that the "political" interactions are back at square one and I'm not particularly interested in that kind of discourse...although I may choose to read what some friends have to say from time to time (which is why I'm even here currently) but I doubt I will contribute much thought of my own for some time again.