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Old 04-17-2007, 07:36 PM   #176 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Read very carefully what you asked me. You asked about him patrolling his back yard. You did NOT ask about him owning one. I responded with having NO PROBLEM of him owning one, as long as he wasn't walking aimlessly around with it WITHOUT a necessary purpose.
I did. I know what I asked you. The 2nd says "keep and bear arms" not "keep arms in the closet." He has the right to carry his gun around if you believe he has the right to have a gun at all. You don't get to define when it's OK to carry the gun. If he wants to patrol his yard with it, he can. If he wants to patrol the sidewalk with it, he can. As I said before, if you don't like it, then I suggest you take to heart the concept that only a well organized militia has the right to keep and bear arms. After all, if we went with that standard, then you wouldn't have to worry about what your neighbor was doing with his RPG.


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Just like us in the military, we did not patrol our secured perimeter with a tank or a harrier. We DID patrol it with machine guns and handguns and had RPGs and grenades in our armory. It is nothing different in a civilian aspect either. Trying to pin me in a corner with my own words isn't going to work so long as you use my correct words and not yours.
The 2nd says "ARMS." It does not restrict what arms those are. If you have the right to carry a gun, then you have the right to carry a knife, a sword, an RPG, a nuke. . anything. The 2nd does not restrict WHERE you are allowed to carry it.

You do not get to completely rewrite the 2nd to suit yourself. You cannot go against the words in the 2nd. While I will admit that the "well regulated militia" part is open to interpretation as to what constitutes the well regulated militia, the "keep AND bear arms" part is quite clear. If you get to keep a gun, you get to bear it. It does not say "keep and bear arms as long as you are not patrolling somewhere that dksuddeth doesn't like."
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