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Old 04-17-2007, 07:13 PM   #168 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mirevolver
And the only reason we hear about these is because of where they happened. We often don't hear about this at the meanest "ghetto" schools because the kids there are more likely to get killed in gang related violence on the streets outside the school. Inside the schools, the security is almost at the level of a prison.

If this guy at VA Tech saw his girlfriend with another guy at an off campus bar and then shot up the bar, it probably would never have made national news. Instead this happens in the classroom and the whole world sees it, then follow the typical reactions of; guns, video games, TV, music all being the problem. In the following months we'll get the typical news stories about how this guy liked to play first-person shooter games, or listened to eminem, or saw the movie grindhouse.

So before the typical calls of "more gun control," "ban video games," and "more censorship," perhaps we should look for the root problem. At this point it's looking like this guy had some jealousy issues, combined with a lack of friends. If this was at a high school, people would already be demanding the heads of the school's administration and counseling staff. But with this being at a university where the staff isn't supposed to keep records of every student's personal problems. So what do we do? Have congress pass a law telling everybody to be sensitive to everyone else's feelings? That would quickly make the list of most useless laws.



Yeah, that's probably just as bad as telling someone to stop arguing because you can't think of anyone who might follow the same line of thinking.

No, you are WRONG. You misread the data, misunderstood what you read, and then misquoted it to support your position.

I deal with this data, am well-versed with it, know what I'm talking about, have statistical training, outlined how wrong you were, and yet you still just keep arguing rather than admitting you are FACTUALLY WRONG.

Seriously, you would at least leave with some semblence of respect if you just demonstrated you had enough intelligence to understand when you are wrong when it's been clearly pointed out to you.

Why is it so hard for you to understand that ONE measure of aggravated assault in the US is comparable to HALF the rate of ALL the measures of assault Canada uses (even "non-violent" assault, unless you think that assault without weapons that doesn't result in bodily harm is violent?)

That means to be a fair comparison you'd have to compile ALL the reports of every kind of assault every reported to police in the US. There's a reason why we don't use those numbers in our official data....we'd be ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE ABOVE THE REST OF THE WORLD.

seriously, now you're crossing the line from ignorant to unintelligent.
I tried to warn you politely before that you were mishandling the data, but since you persist in digging your heels in, there you go...my opinion is you lack comprehension skills.
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