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Old 04-17-2007, 07:00 PM   #163 (permalink)
mirevolver
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Originally Posted by archetypal fool
In all honesty, I doubt there's a correlation between a school's performance and school-related violence. This guy didn't do this because VT isn't the number one university school in America, and the Columbine kids didn't go ballistic because their school wasn't an A+ school. These are psychopathic, mentally unbalanced people who commit these kinds of crimes. The human brain is an incredibly complex machine which is fundamentally disturbed by "being bumped" or "being picked on". Most people get by with time, etc, but not these people. I believe these kinds of people are ticking time bombs, and they would be just as likely to do these kinds of things at the meanest "ghetto" school as they would at Harvard Law.
And the only reason we hear about these is because of where they happened. We often don't hear about this at the meanest "ghetto" schools because the kids there are more likely to get killed in gang related violence on the streets outside the school. Inside the schools, the security is almost at the level of a prison.

If this guy at VA Tech saw his girlfriend with another guy at an off campus bar and then shot up the bar, it probably would never have made national news. Instead this happens in the classroom and the whole world sees it, then follow the typical reactions of; guns, video games, TV, music all being the problem. In the following months we'll get the typical news stories about how this guy liked to play first-person shooter games, or listened to eminem, or saw the movie grindhouse.

So before the typical calls of "more gun control," "ban video games," and "more censorship," perhaps we should look for the root problem. At this point it's looking like this guy had some jealousy issues, combined with a lack of friends. If this was at a high school, people would already be demanding the heads of the school's administration and counseling staff. But with this being at a university where the staff isn't supposed to keep records of every student's personal problems. So what do we do? Have congress pass a law telling everybody to be sensitive to everyone else's feelings? That would quickly make the list of most useless laws.

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Originally Posted by smooth
I had a long post but I didn't hit reply for a long time and the forum logged me out. Rather than type it out, I actually went and read your quote. Imagine my surprise when I noticed what you left out, here is the portion in it's entirety:



So I'm curious, WHY would you leave out the rest of the sentence...other than it directly undermines your argument. And if that's how you'd like to proceed, I'm not going to participate in discussing things with you.

You not only misuse information due to a lack of knowledge, you're willing to clip relevent information out from your own sources in order to support a point that isn't being made by the source itself!
Yeah, that's probably just as bad as telling someone to stop arguing because you can't think of anyone who might follow the same line of thinking.
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