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Originally Posted by mirevolver
Smooth, are you saying that problems in the school system are completely unrelated to school violence? I for one see a dropout rate as a clear indication of how well as school system performs. If a school has a high dropout rate, then it is a failure to its students. Would it not be a stretch to say that failing schools with high dropout rates have higher incidences of student on student and student on staff violence?
I don't know what you think, that's why I asked questions about what you said. Furthermore I did not compare to all violent crime in Germany, but to violence in German schools.
Also, I referenced violent crime because that's what you said, if you mean homicides, say homicides.
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I had a long post but I didn't hit reply for a long time and the forum logged me out. Rather than type it out, I actually went and read your quote.
Imagine my surprise when I noticed what you left out, here is the portion in it's entirety:
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Reported property crime in the US is actually lower than in Germany or Canada, yet the American homicide rate in the United States is substantially higher. Interestingly enough, the overall violent crime rate in the United States was roughly half that of Canada, despite its homicide rate being 189.5% higher; note from the references, however, that the US violent crime rate includes only Aggravated Assault, whereas the Canadian violent crime rate includes all categories of assault, including the much-more-numerous Simple Assault (i.e., assault not using a weapon and not resulting in serious bodily harm).
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So I'm curious, WHY would you leave out the rest of the sentence...other than it directly undermines your argument. And if that's how you'd like to proceed, I'm not going to participate in discussing things with you.
You not only misuse information due to a lack of knowledge, you're willing to clip relevent information out from your own sources in order to support a point that isn't being made by the source itself!