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Originally Posted by shakran
I think it's sad that 32 people died today and some people don't want to try and figure out how to stop it from happening again.
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Quoted for truth. TFP is here for people to have discussions about things. We're discussing this. I don't think anyone has shown disrespectful behavior in this thread. If they did, I'm sure a majority of posters would call him or her on their words.
I do have to wonder how much more difficult it would be to get guns in a country where guns were banned. Gun crimes in the UK dropped off after the gun ban was put in place. Yes, some other violent crimes did rise, but I doubt you'd see someone go into a school with a knife or an airgun and kill 33 people. That says a lot.
We've had various discussions before about the source of weapons to criminals. I still have not found a reasonable answer to the question, "Where do they get these guns?". Some are stolen from owners. Some are bought at gun shows. Some are stolen from retain locations. Some are stolen en route to retail stores. Some are imported. The thing is, guns aren't like drugs, being grown all over the world and such. We know where guns are made. You'd think we could monitor them more efficiently between production and sale to the public, police, or military.
Speaking momentarily to the right to bear arms:
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A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
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I see nothing in here about non-militia civilians having the right to bear arms. I read this as saying that a well regulated militia has a right to arm itself. I can think of one well regulated militia in the US: the National Guard. I agree that the National Guard has the right to bear arms in order to protect our country. I do not agree that every Tom, Dick, and Harry has the right to walk down the street packing. That's where gun related fatalities come from. That's where involuntary manslaughter comes from. Not only that, but the escalation means that when the populace is armed, the criminal must arm better. Call it mutually assured destruction.