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Originally Posted by willravel
So you think having a policy that allows everyone to carry on campus would have helped to prevent a school shooting?
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I've said this before, I'll say it again. There is NO LAW that will ever prevent a massacre like this.....NONE....BUT, if those that WANTED to were allowed to carry, this massacre COULD have ended with alot less deaths.
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Originally Posted by willravel
You're trying to speak on their behalf. They no longer have voices outside their friends and family. I don't pretend to know their politics.
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so they are inconsequential to the issue at hand now that they are dead because of said politics. I heard you the first time.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Can you say that it's impossible that more people having guns will mean more guns fired and thus a higher probability of renegade bullets?
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No, and neither can you say say the opposite, since the ONLY thing that stopped this was the gunman taking his own life.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Have you ever taken fire from several semi or automatic weapons? I haven't but I can imagine it may be more intense than a firing range.
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uh, 6 years, US MARINE!!!!! not fun at all, but I was damn glad to have had a weapon myself, thank you very much.
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Originally Posted by willravel
They often do, unfortunately. Google 'accidental police shootings '.
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yeah, i know. I pointed this out to you in the san francisco ban thread. I also pointed out how cops shoot innocent bystanders 9% more than civilians using a gun as self defense.
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Originally Posted by highthief
Personally, I would think that the more guns in the hands of people the more chance someone would get shot, rather than less. Arguably, someone might have stopped this guy halfway through his rampage - equally arguably, 3 other people might have flipped their lids prior to now and reacted with the weapon at hand and killed even more in some fit of violence or while fired up by something else.
I confess, I will never understand the extremist/fundamentalist viewpoint some people in the US have about "the right to bear arms". I find it a frightening thing. Perhaps that's the reaction some people crave.
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HT, it's all about in how much you value your life. If you desire to place the responsibility of protecting your life in the hands of a paid government official, by all means....do so. Understand though, that that government official (or his department) suffer no legal consequences for failure to do such.
On the other hand, if you value your life enough that you trust nobody with it but yourself....well, there you go. You become the ultimate responsibility for yourself and your life.