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Old 04-12-2007, 12:49 PM   #115 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by AVoiceOfReason
Suppose Imus had not used "nappy haired" but instead had said "That's a rough looking bunch of hos." I think he would have been able to fade the heat a bit more, because "hos" and "bitches" is more generic and not racially specific.
Agreed.

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Ann Coulter observed in her column:
I just want to point out the irony here. Seems to me Ann "Mitt Romney's a faggot" Coulter is probably the last person on earth who should be commenting on this incident.


And mixedmedia/roachboy, let's go over this one more time, because I'm typing things and they just aren't getting through. Let's try to understand this point before I get carpal-tunnel eh?

There is absolutely no such thing as reverse racism. Period. No such thing. There is no reverse racism. Reverse racism does not exist. I do not believe in reverse racism. Reverse racism is a fiction. Please stop telling people that I am making a reverse racism argument. I am not. Reverse racism is fake. Reverse racism is nonexistent.

I am making a racism argument. Racism exists. Racism can be practiced by anyone, no matter what race they happen to be. I am fighting against racism. I am not fighting reverse racism because reverse racism does not exist.

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Originally Posted by mixedmedia
I think he interprets remarks - that may only demarcate by race - as necessarily racist in response to the well-deserved sensitivity that black people have about derogatory remarks made about them by white people and tries to account for them as being of the same phenomena when it is simply not true.
You can wish it not to be true, but that does not change the truth. There is no interpretation here. Nappy headed is an insult directed at black people. By the same token if you call a Mexican a wetback, no one's going to think you meant he was outside in the rain.

I interpret racist remarks as being racist remarks. You don't seem to understand this, but the fact is that as long as people continue to think and act and speak as though skin color means anything at all, this country will continue to have problems with racism. I'm not willing to accept that. It doesn't matter if you're black. It doesn't matter if I'm white. It doesn't matter if we're both red or yellow or whatever other bullshit color people have come up with in an attempt to make a category out of something that isn't a category. Everyone, no matter what color they are, needs to stop comparing their color to the color of everyone around them. It doesn't mean anything.

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As if to say, "look at how well I deal with being called a 'whitey.' Why can't you deal with it as well as I do?"
Well that's a nice try of getting inside my head, but I suggest you sign up for a few relevant courses before you start trying to psychoanalyze too many people. I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying racism is stupid, and people need to knock it off. No more or less than that needs to be read in to what I say.


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I think that's an attitude that is deliberately ignorant of why it is even an issue in the first place.
I know why it's an issue. I also know that it's an issue that will continue to fester and poison our society until people on all sides finally decide to just let it go.

Hell if I trace it far enough back I bet I'd find some of my relatives who were tortured during the crusades. Should I swear an oath of revenge against the Christians? No - it won't help anything.

I'm getting tired of you people acting as though I don't understand that black people were treated terribly in this country. Yes, I do understand that. No, I do not think that can be used as an excuse for black people to behave badly. It is not an excuse to spew racially venomous tirades from a public stage. It is not an excuse to call a jew a hymie. That crap simply doesn't fly with me. I'm terribly sorry that this country was full of assholes for 150+ years, but how long must we go until we finally let go of the wounds of the past? Are you suggesting that society will be better off if, now that things are at least on the right track, we have to wait another 150 years for people to finally get the racist bullshit out of their systems?

Are you seriously going to sit there and tell me it's far better to have people making racist remarks than it would be for people to stop looking at race as something that matters when judging people?
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