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Old 04-10-2007, 11:05 AM   #45 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
Pan, I haven't called you anything, let alone a racist or KKK member; neither has aceventura3 for that matter. My involvement with this topic is to try to focus on what I see as the larger issue here, the message outside of the racial aspect. If you'd like to discuss something other than race, I'll be happy to do so, but just like Janet Jackson, I think that the mainstream has missed the bigger problem here.

I can't view the video at work, so I can't make any comments one way or the other at this point other than to point out that I'm sure that if I dig long enough I can find white supremist on the radio or TV (Jerry Springer anyone?) to make a nice counterpoint if it is what I expect it is.

As for your example, maybe she just doesn't like you or your religion. I don't see where race is necessarily an issue unless you make it one. The only way we'll ever know for sure is if you ask her. Any opinions expressed here are pointless since we're talking about an individual who may or may not be an asshole and may or may not be crazy. I don't know, and actually, I don't care.
1) I'd like to see where I said you or Ace called me anything.

2) you obviously aren't reading my posts.

I was called a devil worshiper and have been harassed and discriminated against by this woman.

I went to my bosses (who are also hers) and was told basically I'm a white male, she's a black 70 yr old female..... we aren't doing anything.

The argument I use with my bosses is this.... if she invited me someplace because I raised a stink and she gave me an invitation to be nice.... and later on I told someone I wasn't going because she was black and then I discriminated and harrassed her the way she does me.... I'd be gone, I'd be sued and I would be thrown entirely out of my profession....

so what is the difference between what she said and her actions toward me and my hypothetical.


And in this Jazz,

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Originally Posted by the jazz
As for your example, maybe she just doesn't like you or your religion. I don't see where race is necessarily an issue unless you make it one. The only way we'll ever know for sure is if you ask her. Any opinions expressed here are pointless since we're talking about an individual who may or may not be an asshole and may or may not be crazy. I don't know, and actually, I don't care.
you lose any respect I had for you.

Basically we were talking about an issue in this thread I was able to add from my personal experience and instead of using it for the subject... you chose to dismiss it and blow it off when it is germain to the subject at hand. I am not asking you or anyone what I should do.... I am explaining how in a situation I am in, I am experiencing reverse discrimination, and I am simply saying those who state Imus is wrong need to show that in this situation.

Instead you turn the situation back on me... and act like it has nothing to do with the subject. You sir, have let your little Mod title go to your head.

BTW before I get into trouble.... I brought up Jazz's Mod status for a reason... it has nothing to do with anything in this talk.... just like my being white and male and under 50 has nothing to do with my being called a devil worshiper.

Yet, the powers at my place of employment bring it up and show a discrimination that my rights, feelings and what I believe are less important than those of someone else.

Labels.... either you denounce ALL labels and point out wrongs as they happen or you point out nothing. That's my point.
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