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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
Funny because I don't think we'd sit on the same side of that either. See, I don't agree that Program housing on campuses for self segregation is a good thing. I don't think that colleges should have seperate graduation ceremonies in spanish, german, tagalog, chinese.
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Name one post out of my thousands and thousands of posts on TFP that would lead you to believe that I'm pro-segregation. That's gotta be the biggest red herring/strawman in history. I am strongly anti-segregation and strongly pro integration, culturally, racially, genderly (not sure that's a word, but you know what I mean), and even based on sexual orientation.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
"In 1990, the most recent year for which figures are available, 31,800 people succeeded in immigrating legally to the United States from mainland China, putting that country in sixth place as a source of legal immigration."
So what about the Chinese[. Y]ou are not speaking up for them. If you are saying that it's good for Mexicans, then it's good for Chinese, Somalians, Nigerians, Ethopians, et. al.
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I'm saying that no one benefits from the current system, and that it preys on immigrant families that have no choice but to come here illegally when all other options have been exhausted. That would include people from any country. My area and experience just happen to be saturated with Central Americans.
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I'm sorry that there isn't enough for everyone, that is just a fact.
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That's an issue of overpopulation, not immigration.
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I'm asking you to back up your statement. You asking me to look it up or phone them makes it laughable. So far it's hearsay. So far that number still looks like you pulled it outta your ass.
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It was an estimate based on statistics I've read in newspapers for a while. The fact that google doesn't come up with the statistics doesn't make them untrue. The fact of the matter is that you're too lazy to prove m wrong. Tell me, do you see a flaw in my logic about the hypothetical situation where the border is shut down and crime rises? If not, then you're saying my stuff is laughable is laughable, and we're just wasting out time laughing.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
I'm sorry WTF does terrorism have to do with this? I'm showing that [governments] in impoverished nation CAN [assist] their people to get them to overseas jobs and helps them get them legally. You can't even say, "You know the MEXICAN government could learn from this."
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In some ways, the Mexican government could learn from the Philippine government. Of course, you failed to mention how many Filipino people are in the US vs. Mexicans. I'll let you google that one yourself. If the Mexicans were only trying to get a fraction of what they're getting in now into the US, a comparable number to the Philippines, I doubt we'd have as much of a problem.
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You toss in terrorism???? Nowhere in ANTHING I've posted or linked to mentions terrorism. Yet the mention of Philippines and suddenly terrorism and al Qaeda come into play? If you searched history you'd find that Islam in the Philippines predates al Qaeda. You'd also should know that "Filipino Muslims form 5% of the country's population, while the rest of the general population are mostly Roman Catholic (84%) and Protestant (8%)." And the Filipino Muslims only occupy the areas closest to Indonesia/Malaysia which are Islamic nationstates. Manila where the Office of Overseas Workers is located, is Roman Catholic. But I guess, you are allowed to generalize and make blanket statements and others not.
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What blanket statements? True or false: the al Qaeda works and has worked in the Philippines.
True? Then there were no blanket statements. I was comparing the security concerns from each place, which is basically the entire reason for closed borders.