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Old 04-06-2007, 03:54 AM   #178 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by willravel
I couldn't agree more. The thing is, if there are less illegals coming into, living in, and working in the US, the less likely things are to change. If they went home, that would mean the system works. The result would be fatality and crime rates tripling in Mexico, and severe damage to our economy. I can't get behind that.

I, personally, see bilingual education as a step in the right direction. It'd be nice if Canada, the US and Mexico could be chummy like the EU some day. I think all three nations could benefit greatly from it, and it would help to stabilize the economy of Central America.
Are you implying then that illegals coming in are "protesting" or "civil disobedience" to change things? That's the implication I read from your statement above.

Fatality and crime rates tripling???? I'm sorry did you just pull that number outta your ass? Because that also implies that crime rates would DECREASE here if Illegals did not exist within our borders. And again, why is it my problem? There are enough problems here WITHIN America to fix before I worry about somewhere else. There are enough poor Americans that need our help before helping someone who is here illegally, or even back at their homeland before they come here.

Have you seen the effect of NAFTA on industries? I've seen it first hand. I've seen 3rd and 4th generation garment manufacturer owners, close their business because it competed against cheaper labor pools. People who employed 150-300 people having to either invest in moving their company into NAFTA zones outside of the US borders. Some had to uproot or split the family to live outside of US borders. Into countries and areas that have high crime rates.

Vibrant sections of the garment industry here in NYC completely wiped out. Even the Chinese sweatshops were impacted because they had a symbiotic relationship with the garment manufacturers. It used to be that if you walked around the garment district you'd see it bustling with workers, fabrics, and fashion. It hasn't been that way since the mid to late 90s.

uber, I'm of the belief that Illegals get more benefits than poor americans because they have learned how to exploit the system. Maybe it's media driven but I have heard of people who come here from Santo Domingo just to get welfare checks, figure out some exploit within the system and collect monies even though they have returned back to Santo Domingo.

As far as healthcare goes, again, it's what I hear from the media, illegals get healthcare coverage that uninsured americans do not.
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