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Tilted Cat Head
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Location: Manhattan, NY
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Originally Posted by willravel
Your parents and you are actually separate people, just fyi. When your dad has breakfast, you aren't having breakfast. When your parents legally immigrate, that's not you.
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No, that's why I stated:
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You are fortunate, equally as fortunate as me to have been born in the United States. That is just plain luck. Life is not fair, we don't get to pick where we are born or what family circumstances will surround us. No that's just luck of the draw.
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But again, I want to live in another country of my choosing. I cannot because of whatever immigration laws that make it neigh impossible for me to be there. I'm willing to pay the price for living abroad, in fact it's even crazy what I'd be paying in taxes since I'd have to pay the country residence tax PLUS United States federal taxes.
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Sure you work, but you get the opportunity to work without too much difficulty. That's not the case in Mexico. Unemployment is unreal there. Education, something FREE to you, is either incredibly expensive or very low in quality in Mexico. I'll bet you eat at least 3 meals a day. You go to a 9-5 job that you earned by getting a decent education. Put 2 and 2 together here.
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Again, LUCK. Just like YOU, you are equally lucky to be here for the same reasons I am lucky to be here. You wish to spend your free time in your empathy space, great, you find satisfaction and fullfillment in it. Great. More power to you. I don't. To say you do something out of sympathy is just disrespectful to them, you are then implying that they need the help, need the handout. That my friend in my opinion is you looking down on them.
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I did. Now it's illegal for me to do that. I'll still invite them over for dinner, though. I'll also help them find the best jobs I can. I feel empathy for them, and I want to help. Even without pity or sympathy or empathy, they are a large part of the foundation of the economy in most of the southern and western states of our country, and turning on them would be stupid. If we were to suddenly remove them, do you know what would happen?
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What would happen? Economies that should have not existed or be corrected because the illegals are no longer here? What doomsday thing will you predict? Suddenly my fruits and vegetables will cost 4 times as much? Great I'm willing to pay that price, it should have been climbing like that to begin with. Suddenly labor prices will cause manufactured goods to increase? Flowers will not be sold at intersections? Oranges not sold at freeway offramps? No all these things would still happen as they should. Free markets are what they are. Now are these people making living wages that battle cry of those who disdain Walmart and other large corporates? or does it not apply to them because you have sympathy and empathy and what they are getting here is better than whatever they'd get in their homeland. No, in my opinion it's all part and parcel of the same labor pool. As I see it the immigrants know how to sacrifice to get the things that they want, illegal or not, they are willing to trade something today for future tomorrow. My desire is that they come here via the legal channels.
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