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Old 04-04-2007, 01:32 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Thank you Jorgelito, you expressed very well what I guess I couldn't.



I still have a hard time understanding why I am a racist, Xenophobic KKK, white supremist, neo Nazistic, Facsist because I expect and demand people who want to immigrate to my country to do so legally. Those that choose to come illegally are criminals they broke a law... but I'm the bad guy, I'm the racist, Xenophobic KKK, white supremist, neo Nazistic, Facsist.

I have often wondered what if the next wave of terrorists comes from these illegals. What do these people who are so passionate about letting them in, embracing them and just all happy that they got here say then?

"Oh it was just a small group, the vast majority would never hurt anyone."

"You're still a racist, Xenophobic KKK, white supremist, neo Nazistic, Facsist and they acted out of your hatred. It was because they were so hated by you that they blew up a mall, passed anthrax, passed tuberculosis, brought in massive amounts of heroin, cocaine, etc. all laced with poisons."

"You don't understand, they are people too. They just want a better life... who cares that they broke a law the second they came here? They were treated poorly, discriminated against when they got here so they blew up a plane, a bridge, a hospital.... it's our fault because we didn't try to embrace them enough."

Like I said.... not saying any of that will happen.... but what if it does? Will I still be a racist, Xenophobic KKK, white supremist, neo Nazistic, Facsist for having the balls to stick up for my country and demand people come here legally?

Or will I be attacked and reminded that some terrorists come here legally, some were born here.... so, no big deal that we allowed in illegals that turned out to be terrorists.
Ok, honestly Pan, I don't know where to begin with this. At least I see where you're coming from here. Now I see why you just think of illegal immigrants as monsters who are here to kill you...Because you think all illegal immigrants are terrorists...Ok, seriously... Do you honestly think that if we start treating illegal immigrants badly, they would "blew up a mall[s], plane[s], a bridge[s], hospital[s], [pass] anthrax, [pass] tuberculosis, [bring] in massive amounts of heroin, cocaine, etc. all laced with poisons," here in the United States? Also, please disregard that those who committed 9/11 came here legally, since that would sully your argument. Terrorists are terrorists, and if they decide to come here and attack us, they will find a way...

But that's beside the point. This thread isn't about terrorism, and you know that. But now it's easy to see where your comments are coming from...you seem to rank ALL illegal immigrants the same as those misguided militant extremists from the middle east (and those are the minority). What you've essentially done is lump together everyone into one group, and given them all mean and scary Al-Qaeda faces.

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I also don't think our government or schools should be responsible for teaching classes in all the different languages. Maybe the government can finance some language transition programs or something but putting this burden on the schools seems a bit much.
Is that what they do? Offer every class in two languages? I honestly didn't know that.

I must've gone to a pretty sad school. All classes were in English (save for the foreign language classes), but ESL kids would be taken out of class by the resident ESL specialist (or something like that), who would then teach them specially with the smart kids from class. It's a pretty fucked-up system, but I though it was like that everywhere.

Also, about the limitation on the number of immigrants, I absolutely agree. This country, as great as it is, can't have open borders for all. But that doesn't mean you can look down your nose at people who do sneak in (and who you've never met) and consider them less than you.

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