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Originally Posted by pigglet
Cpt: i'm not going to spend copious amounts of time arguing the ins and outs of horse fuckery, so i'll try to make my points succinct:
you didn't respond to the aspect of the psychology of the modern day horse fucker. i should put in the caveat that i'm talking about your average horse fucker in 1st world industrialized nations. i can't really pontificate about the relationship of a ubangi or a starving eastern european farmer to his animals. so with this in mind:
the reason i brought up the mentally retarted and the comatose is exactly the line you're mentioning. i think it involves the lack of ability to give consent. just like your average horse. or, perhaps a person who isn't seriously mentally retarded can seem to give consent, but what does that mean? i would posit that might be similar to your trusty mare, who seems to luring you in with her big round eyes and that playful flick of the tail.
now eating animals is something i think is a valid point, but i'd have to say that food is different than sexual desire. saying you've got to eat a cow is one thing; maybe not strictly true, but pretty difficult to avoid for a lot of people to obtain the desired result: life. saying you have to fuck one to obtain the desired result: orgasm...well, i think that's sort of a stretch.
and i'd have to say i don't like the idea of people thinking its ok to fuck things that can't give consents outside of fanfic. i think it sets a dangerous precedent for transferal to other situations. weaker people, for example.
maybe i'm just prejudiced. maybe i'm an anti-horse-fuckerer. but i guess i feel pretty comfortable about that.
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But do animals give consent when they have regular sex with each other? Or is it more of an instinctual, automatic kinda thing? Does that invalidate the "consent as a requirement" paradigm? Oh well, I don't know. Who the hell knows...
Its a very vague subject if you ask me but at any rate, society has made its choice. Fucking animals is "bad". I'm just saying though, as far as I'm concerned, if the guy wants to fuck a donkey or whatever I'm not gonna be the one to stop him.
As far as the psychology of the modern-day horse-fucker, and having taken my fair share of psych classes as a former psych major, I don't think there is enough
objective research on the matter to say either way. Could be just as harmless to society as jerking off, who knows? Like I said, society has made its choice and it certainly looks definite.
Heres a good one though:
Is it ok to have recreational sex with humanoid robots? (given that you had the technology to make them)
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If so, then is it ok to have sex with genetically engineered human look-alike beings without complete human brains? (Having the same mental capacity as the previously mentioned robots and given the proper technology of course)
Morality is a very relative thing...